Message from @Neco2040

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2019-02-07 20:45:46 UTC  

derivatives*

2019-02-07 20:45:59 UTC  

But glass stegal had nothing to do with the crash

2019-02-07 20:46:04 UTC  

nor was glass steagal fully deregulated

2019-02-07 20:46:09 UTC  

it was deregulated 1/4th

2019-02-07 20:46:22 UTC  

But thats a different topic and I'll debate that later

2019-02-07 20:46:32 UTC  

Why do tax cuts cause recessions? or the business cycle

2019-02-07 20:46:52 UTC  

I don't know how much tax cuts contribute to recessions, but my main issue with tax cuts for the wealthy is that it's harder to balance the budget and pay for programs to help Americans

2019-02-07 20:47:05 UTC  

But then why do you think they cause recessions?

2019-02-07 20:47:16 UTC  

(fun fact everytime a tax cut has happened, tax revenue has risen)

2019-02-07 20:47:21 UTC  

which completely goes against that thought

2019-02-07 20:47:39 UTC  

Not to mention, most tax cuts are for the general population ( which includes the wealthy)

2019-02-07 20:49:06 UTC  

I would contribute most of the blame to deregulation not tax cuts. But tax cuts do play a role as-well. For example, corporations are using their tax cuts for stock buy-backs

2019-02-07 20:49:14 UTC  

which artificially inflates the market

2019-02-07 20:49:20 UTC  

But that still doesn't explain how that causes a recession?

2019-02-07 20:49:24 UTC  

Stock buybacks don't do anything such

2019-02-07 20:49:25 UTC  

And 'fun fact' isn't true

2019-02-07 20:49:29 UTC  

but what do they "inflate"

2019-02-07 20:49:35 UTC  

Neco I can list every tax cut, and it's raised tax revenues

2019-02-07 20:49:48 UTC  

Coolidge tax cuts, Harding, Reagan, JFK, Bush, Trump

2019-02-07 20:49:55 UTC  

These are one of few

2019-02-07 20:50:02 UTC  

THe deficit literally went up

2019-02-07 20:50:12 UTC  

They inflate the stock market

2019-02-07 20:50:22 UTC  

Deficit due to the spending increasing

2019-02-07 20:50:30 UTC  

How do stock buybacks inflate the stock market?

2019-02-07 20:51:28 UTC  

@Neco2040 But thats not the main point actually, my point is these cycles have happened even when supply side policies haven't been in action

2019-02-07 20:51:34 UTC  

So it cannot be supply side policies at place

2019-02-07 20:52:45 UTC  

The deficit goes up every time we have cut taxes, this really isn't debatable

2019-02-07 20:52:49 UTC  

Nope

2019-02-07 20:52:55 UTC  

Coolidge cut the debt by a 1/3rd

2019-02-07 20:53:01 UTC  

and he cut taxes big time

2019-02-07 20:53:02 UTC  

It inflates the market because they are buying stock...

2019-02-07 20:53:14 UTC  

Buying stock does not "inflate" the market

2019-02-07 20:53:39 UTC  

Tax cuts causing a recession is completely irrational, giving more money to the people is much better than the central planning of the government. The economy is the people, the only people who know the demands of the people are, the people.

2019-02-07 20:53:40 UTC  

I think it's better if we talk about one thing at a time

2019-02-07 20:53:49 UTC  

So tax cuts causing recessions is irrational.

2019-02-07 20:54:11 UTC  

Consumers do not cause recessions.

2019-02-07 20:55:23 UTC  

Reagan exploded the deficit after cutting taxes, then Clinton balanced the budget, then Bush cut taxes and the deficit went up again, then Obama cut the deficit, and now the deficit is up after the Trump tax cuts

2019-02-07 20:55:33 UTC  

Clinton cut taxes

2019-02-07 20:55:43 UTC  

He increased the top marginal tax rate

2019-02-07 20:55:46 UTC  

But we must see why the deficit went up

2019-02-07 20:55:46 UTC  

Spending