Message from @Ben Garrison

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2018-04-29 22:41:31 UTC  

Because without central authority there's no coordination, there's no logistics, there's no anything. It's just now various local factions all with their own shit going on

2018-04-29 22:41:59 UTC  

You know not every General and Party member was in Moscow, right? And the ones who were could always use their legs and leave

2018-04-29 22:42:12 UTC  

Patriotism is fungible. They can be patriotic af, but they still have families.

2018-04-29 22:42:19 UTC  

They can change their patriotism to their local town

2018-04-29 22:42:42 UTC  

That's correct but has nothing to do with the reality of the clash of nations that was WW2

2018-04-29 22:42:56 UTC  

Okay so Stalin gets taken out or he's forced to flee

2018-04-29 22:42:59 UTC  

Now who's in chage?

2018-04-29 22:43:01 UTC  

charge*

2018-04-29 22:43:21 UTC  

Probably Shukov

2018-04-29 22:43:26 UTC  

Zhukov*

2018-04-29 22:43:30 UTC  

The answer is whoever says they're in charge. And if multiple people say it....guess what. You're gonna split like an axe to wood

2018-04-29 22:44:12 UTC  

Zhukov can be in charge until another general says "I'd do a much better job, and my men are all loyal to me...not Zhukov. I'm now in charge of Eastern Russia."

2018-04-29 22:44:17 UTC  

Or whoever Kalinin appoints

2018-04-29 22:44:20 UTC  

And just like that he's in charge

2018-04-29 22:45:12 UTC  

Look up the Romance of the Three Kingdoms period in China to see what happens when a centralized leader gets taken out. Chaos ensues, and multiple local factions rise up and try to fill the power vacuum. Same thing is happening right now in Iraq and Afganistand and Syria since ISIS is taken out

2018-04-29 22:45:48 UTC  

I am well aware of the Three Kingdoms period. The difference is China wasnt subject to invasion by an overwhelming force

2018-04-29 22:45:52 UTC  

Again.....Hitler was on Meth. Literally meth. The idea that he was acting logically is magical wishful thinking

2018-04-29 22:46:20 UTC  

There was no such thing as China during the Three Kindgoms

2018-04-29 22:46:29 UTC  

It was just kingdoms within China

2018-04-29 22:46:46 UTC  

Which, if you look at the accession of Alfred the Great in Wessex, people have a fairly strong recognition that even with individual ambitions for internal struggles in the face of foreign aggression they must act as one

2018-04-29 22:47:04 UTC  

Precisely, there was no "Other" to unify them

2018-04-29 22:47:41 UTC  

Which makes it even more ridiculous honestly. The whole idea of attacking the Soviets was dumb in the first place. Not only was it dumb, but then HOw he attacked was dumb, the locations he attacked were dumb, his retreat strategy was dumb AF

2018-04-29 22:47:42 UTC  

The meth accusation is immaterial to the concepts we're discussing

2018-04-29 22:47:51 UTC  

Like, it was blunder after blunder after blunder....and people actually LIKE this guy

2018-04-29 22:48:25 UTC  

Please shoot me if I ever follow some loser like that. Oof. What a mess that would be.

2018-04-29 22:48:30 UTC  

Even generously granting you that every move was a blunder, he's idolized as a patriotic statesman not a revolutionary military tactician

2018-04-29 22:48:50 UTC  

Lol some statemen....he got millions of his own people killed

2018-04-29 22:48:58 UTC  

And he ost

2018-04-29 22:49:00 UTC  

lost*

2018-04-29 22:49:01 UTC  

Big time

2018-04-29 22:49:07 UTC  

No matter what, he lost. He's a loser.

2018-04-29 22:49:11 UTC  

Why follow a loser?

2018-04-29 22:49:52 UTC  

Get in voice if you want a full explanation, this is too much to type

2018-04-29 22:50:09 UTC  

I’l get in voice as well

2018-04-29 22:50:12 UTC  

Can't right now, But I will take you up on that eventually

2018-04-29 22:50:20 UTC  

Jew.

2018-04-29 22:50:23 UTC  

Got kids around

2018-04-29 22:50:30 UTC  

Touch them. @Benjamin Bucks

2018-04-29 22:50:38 UTC  

**F a g g o t**

2018-04-29 22:50:41 UTC  

Maybe ill send them off to die in a war like Hitler did

2018-04-29 22:50:50 UTC  

OOOOF