Message from @deng

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2018-05-01 07:31:27 UTC  

The Lone Penguin

2018-05-01 07:31:35 UTC  

Persuasion

2018-05-01 07:31:46 UTC  

human beings arent entirely irrational

2018-05-01 07:31:49 UTC  

I use persuasion on a professional level. There's like 4 different levels

2018-05-01 07:32:02 UTC  

Amateur, Professional, Commerical, and Master PErsuader

2018-05-01 07:32:06 UTC  

feelings are sure but dealing with them isn't necessarily

2018-05-01 07:32:07 UTC  

*typos

2018-05-01 07:32:28 UTC  

We like to think humans are rational about 90 percent of the time and like 10 percent of the time we get irrational

2018-05-01 07:32:34 UTC  

The truth is it's the opposite

2018-05-01 07:32:57 UTC  

We're irrational 90 percent of the time, and we're rational about 10 percent about things that don't really matter or have no emotional baggage to them

2018-05-01 07:33:05 UTC  

Like, you'll be rational about doing your taxes

2018-05-01 07:33:25 UTC  

ill rationally vote for someone based off of my irrational normative values

2018-05-01 07:33:26 UTC  

But you won't be rational about picking your favorite player or picking your career or your wife or literally anything that will matter to you

2018-05-01 07:33:31 UTC  

for example if they support socialism

2018-05-01 07:33:32 UTC  

i vote them

2018-05-01 07:33:45 UTC  

its rational but its rooted in feelings

2018-05-01 07:33:48 UTC  

or normative systems

2018-05-01 07:34:00 UTC  

And that's fine.

2018-05-01 07:34:21 UTC  

But the trap is thinking you're the only logical person....and it's every one else whos irrational

2018-05-01 07:34:44 UTC  

Which is really what causes so much division. We think the other side is full of idiots and our side is generally pretty okay

2018-05-01 07:34:47 UTC  

very few people think that

2018-05-01 07:34:56 UTC  

The Red Team Blue Team phenomenah is one of the most powerful

2018-05-01 07:34:57 UTC  

most people are aware that they are irrational to a degree

2018-05-01 07:35:04 UTC  

Once you belong to a tribe.....oof. forget about it

2018-05-01 07:35:28 UTC  

I wish that were true man. I really o

2018-05-01 07:35:29 UTC  

do*

2018-05-01 07:36:16 UTC  

I mean obviously not many people think they're infallible

2018-05-01 07:36:20 UTC  

I agree with that

2018-05-01 07:36:40 UTC  

it's that they think they're rational 90 percent of the time and irrational 10 percent of the time

2018-05-01 07:36:50 UTC  

Unless you realize that the opposite is true....

2018-05-01 07:36:55 UTC  

Here's the really crazy part, ready?

2018-05-01 07:37:09 UTC  

Unless you realize that humans are irrational almost all of the time....you'll never ever be persuasive

2018-05-01 07:37:18 UTC  

That's like....step one

2018-05-01 07:37:41 UTC  

fair enough, but in the end it depends on the context

2018-05-01 07:38:33 UTC  

you can be persuasive on the merit of how logical you are such as constructing an argument that is sound

2018-05-01 07:38:50 UTC  

maybe not in face to face interactions

2018-05-01 07:38:52 UTC  

Nope, facts never persuade anyone

2018-05-01 07:38:56 UTC  

Because everyone has their own facts

2018-05-01 07:39:22 UTC  

If you convince someone though a debate or something like that....it's because you did something else to convicne them

2018-05-01 07:39:35 UTC  

Like, you were more well spoken, or your tie was red and your opponent had a bowtie

2018-05-01 07:39:40 UTC  

Literally