Message from @deng

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2018-05-01 07:45:07 UTC  

So he's not stupid....but he's stupid enough to be wrong a lot?

2018-05-01 07:45:13 UTC  

that doesn't seem to make sense

2018-05-01 07:45:19 UTC  

Wrong in what way?

2018-05-01 07:45:28 UTC  

On issues of immigration

2018-05-01 07:45:33 UTC  

saying someone is wrong or stupid doesnt mean anything. Give examples

2018-05-01 07:45:44 UTC  

The lone penguin is back

2018-05-01 07:46:01 UTC  

Should've said waddled back

2018-05-01 07:46:05 UTC  

DAMN IT

2018-05-01 07:46:11 UTC  

Missed opportunity

2018-05-01 07:46:14 UTC  

Yep

2018-05-01 07:46:16 UTC  

damn

2018-05-01 07:46:18 UTC  

nice one though

2018-05-01 07:46:22 UTC  

and with that, I'm going to bed lol

2018-05-01 07:46:25 UTC  

late af here

2018-05-01 07:46:29 UTC  

good talk tho yall

2018-05-01 07:46:30 UTC  

night

2018-05-01 07:46:32 UTC  

if im not welcome fine

2018-05-01 07:46:54 UTC  

you're good dude done take it personal

2018-05-01 07:46:55 UTC  

He's portrays immigration as bad for us economically

2018-05-01 07:46:57 UTC  

dont*

2018-05-01 07:47:00 UTC  

which is just false

2018-05-01 07:47:13 UTC  

I can understand maybe a cultural argument

2018-05-01 07:48:55 UTC  

Immigration from where and in what quantities though? To say all immigration is bad economically every time is obviously a rocky case to make but I'd imagine arguing that dirt poor immigrants who can also barely speak a word of the language contribute substantially to the economy would be a difficult proposal to make too

2018-05-01 07:49:19 UTC  

ill leave yall with an article that sort of shows the foundations of all this. Just how much we don't understand reality around us. Check it out if you want to. Just sort of a reference so yall know I'm not making this ish up lol

2018-05-01 07:49:23 UTC  

anyway, night

2018-05-01 07:50:01 UTC  

Night lad

2018-05-01 07:51:04 UTC  

Immigration has shown not to reduce wage levels for natives in any significant manner because there's much more important determinants. If you were to have a bunch of disabled immigrants coming to the U.S. then you would have case because then they would just be a drain but the amount that is coming to the U.S. isn't an economic problem

2018-05-01 07:52:40 UTC  

for example at some point there were tens of thousands of Cuban refugees who went to Florida in the course of one night and researches studied the impacts on wage and found no significant change

2018-05-01 07:55:04 UTC  

No significant change in the wages overall or in the fields that they were employed in? Because obviously 10,000 refugees arent going to be competing for too many higher paying white collar jobs. Also was there any sort of labor shortage in Florida at that time? I'm not arguing that they were a drain but its things to consider

2018-05-01 07:55:25 UTC  

they were primarily low skilled workers

2018-05-01 07:55:55 UTC  

"You can see Card’s striking result in the graph below: There’s just no sign of a dip in low-skill Miami wages after the huge arrival of low-skill Cubans in 1980. The red line is the average wage, in each year, for workers in Miami, ages 19 to 65, whose education doesn’t go beyond high school. The dotted red lines show the interval of statistical confidence, so the true average wage could fall anywhere between the dotted lines."

2018-05-01 08:04:26 UTC  
2018-05-01 14:15:07 UTC  

@deng a lot of those aren’t referring to shit poor retarded Mexicans though.

2018-05-01 14:15:25 UTC  


Immigrants are our engineers, scientists, and innovators.”

2018-05-01 14:15:43 UTC  

That probably refers to Indian and Chinese immigrants.

2018-05-01 14:16:47 UTC  

“Comprehensive immigration reform would increase America’s GDP.” The obsessive goal of increasing GDP is something found exclusively here capitalist nations btw. GDP is kinda irrelevant tbh

2018-05-01 14:19:27 UTC  

“Immigration boosts earnings for American workers. Increased immigration to the United States has increased the earnings of Americans with more than a high school degree. Between 1990 and 2004, increased immigration was correlated with increasing earnings of Americans by 0.7 percent and is expected to contribute to an increase of 1.8 percent over the long-term, according to a study by the University of California at Davis.” There are literally so many other factors this could be. Hell, it could literally be because expenses has dropped and thus wages can increase.

2018-05-01 14:27:31 UTC  

To be honest, I’d imagine that additional people in a country do cause more money to be flowing through it. At the same time though these “correlations” between immigration and whatever benefits clearly aren’t investigated properly. It’s being debated rather deceitfully too. When people think of American immigration it’s usually immigration from Latin America. A lot of the benefits listed seem to only have some sort of tie to China and India.

2018-05-01 14:27:36 UTC  

The hell we talkin' 'boit