Killing someone is worse

Still, just my opinion

@bandit So, you wouldn't approve of someone carrying, say, this

https://imgur.com/a/58dTrTa

That is?

An imgur link.

What is the image

Its hand held and picket weapons

Picture I took with my phone.

Couldn't upload directly, so I linked from imgur.

Not really

Why not, exactly?

In the current situation in the USA I would say yes.

But not here in Amsterdam.

But I'm not worried about someone else with a gun.

Like, other folks having guns is irrelevant.

Like, you're not going to draw on someone who already has you dead to rights. You just get the fuck out, then evaluate and engage if appropriate.

Yes.

But it's not like if someone pulls a knife on you, YOU pull a knife.

Living in a place with heavy gun restrictions, people don't suffer here.

It's not a problem.

Nobody suffers?

Seems like people still get mugged and raped...

Yes

But not in huge numbers.

I would say that if it was an actual problem that affects people there would at least be some form of commotion.

Guns don't increase the number of rapes, though, not for lost criminals.

Some form of pro-gun activism, protests. But there is nothing.

There is no real voice calling for the legalization of firearms.

Because a gun in the crime doesn't make the victim any more threatened.

And it doesn't do much besides add years to the sentence if they're caught and convicted.

I'm talking about for civilian use.

There is no real voice saying we should be able to defend ourselves with guns over here.

There is no legalize guns movement, even not a small one.

That's because y'all quietly surrendered the right to self defense a long time ago. It's an alien mindset to a lot of the world.

The idea that agency should be protected and defended.

I don't buy into that.

The idea of wanting to defend yourself is an instinct.

I suppose so, though I suspect in the same manner that a 2D being would struggle with the concept of a third dimension.

I would say all human beings have the same basic instincts

But without a means to actuate that...