No. "The people" submit themselves to any lies that they believe. @Nikitis

@Diokun True. But to make that out as ordinary is a joke

Lies that are fed to them through mass media and advertising.

"They control and influence the rest of the people to an extent." that is precisely why you don't want your elites to be "random/foreign choosen".

Your point? @Nikitis

@Diokun Most aren't "foreign chosen" they are celebrities for having the same perverse ideals as Feminists

Or just rich because they are successful

Or both

To improve the living standards of most people you have to acknowledge that there is an elite and attune your policies to that fact.

@Nikitis No, you do not

@An Elbow fair enough, but foreign doesn't have to mean just foreign nation, but any powerfull group who is not interested in the best of USA. feminism didn't rise out of nothing, it did because of powerfull group behind. same for any evil out there.

that is why you don't want someone to ever become rich if he will be cave to evil.

Power corrupts.

that is why evil groups/foreign nations will try their best to control/own elites.

@Nikitis To improve the living standards of most people, you need only to teach most people why they are not rich

power doesn't corrupt, its used as bargaining cheap to corrupt. there is a difference.

Well if it was that easy

@Diokun You have no right to dictate someone's success.

@Nikitis it really is

if you don't dictate someone's success, foreign nations will, always.

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Back with your conspiracies

Basically, what's happening is, the rich invest money in the democrats and liberals. The Republicans, being old school capitalists, defend the rich. End of story.

So? How in the world does that mean you should tax them and give the money to the poor?

determining your elite class is the same as determining your ruling class.

Agreed. So?

Lemmestealyourbike, let me put it this way

The US has a problem with rich communists.

The rich have gone communist.

Still not relevant

But you stand in opposition to tax them because of old school ideology.

so...you don't want your ruling class to come out as random, because other nations will definetly take part in the game. as for Templar analisys. its correct. but it doesn't have to do with right vs left. it has to do with a force that wants USA destroyed, and USA refusing to protect itself based on principles.

the rich is communist because they have being choosen by a foreign force

Would you still not tax the rich if the rich were communists?

@Diokun Really now. So you think you should choose who ends up being wealthy, because patriotism?

Ideology knee jerk

@Nikitis I didn't say don't tax them. I said don't go Robin Hood

even if 100% of the rich were devils advocate, taxing them doesn't help. determining new elite is the only solution. accepting old school nobility system is the way.

How else do you want to put a stop to them in a society where individual liberties are highly maintained?

@Diokun what the hell do you mean by determining a new elite?

@Nikitis Remove political influence, not wealth.