@Diokun Really now. So you think you should choose who ends up being wealthy, because patriotism?

Ideology knee jerk

@Nikitis I didn't say don't tax them. I said don't go Robin Hood

even if 100% of the rich were devils advocate, taxing them doesn't help. determining new elite is the only solution. accepting old school nobility system is the way.

How else do you want to put a stop to them in a society where individual liberties are highly maintained?

@Diokun what the hell do you mean by determining a new elite?

@Nikitis Remove political influence, not wealth.

@An Elbow because if we don't, we got enemies in charge.

That doesn't answer the question

You don't know how humans work if you think removing political influence helps in any way.

?

It is the only way to help

well, thats exactly where I agreed that individual liberties are a sabotage to the nation. its only good for poor people needs, not in the nobility level.

Do you really think there are no work-arounds to such sanctions?

this whole freedom ideology is a way of destroying us.

@Nikitis What sanctions?

Sanctions that remove political influence

@Nikitis sanctions? I am talking about full scale removal of properties, lol

@Diokun And no. The opposite is true. People are loosing freedom

Freedom is not a tangible good

poor people are loosing freedom, rich are traitors with all the freedom to destroy their host nation.

People are losing money

@Diokun " sanctions? I am talking about full scale removal of properties, lol" that is theft you perverse creature

freedom ideology just protect traitors, the more we preach and install it, the less freedom poor people have.

No

when you remove from a traitor, its not called theft

The ruling class has gone communist

It is what it is

So?

That will define the nation's economy

only because communism is bad for USA, and ruling class is servant to USA enemy, because USA didn't create its own ruling class (because of principles)

my question is, if I am a nation called Diokun nation, and I have 10 billion to invest in USA, how would you stop me from secretly doing it trought black-market means?

answer: you wouldn't

so the only possible way would be to have old nobility systems, which gives rights only to the ones you chose to.

You people are so ridiculous. If there is a problem with rich people, you don't steal from them. You remove their influence.

If there is an epidemic of poor people, ask yourself why are they poor? Has school failed? Will giving them money from the rich help? No! They are poor for a reason and they will stay poor until they understand. Also, there are not nearly enough rich people to make them not poor.

Also, punishments should fit the crime. Some guy is a traitor because he tried to push his political agenda? Ok? Then remove his ability to push agendas, not all his freaking property.

That's theory

The practice is different

"my question is, if I am a nation called Diokun nation, and I have 10 billion to invest in USA, how would you stop me from secretly doing it trought black-market means?" Who cares? Only the outcome matters. And if it is bad, some means of punishment for "the bad guys".

If it were only all so simple

It really is that simple

The problem is not complexity