Message from @Diokun

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2018-12-12 08:12:51 UTC  

when you remove from a traitor, its not called theft

2018-12-12 08:13:22 UTC  

The ruling class has gone communist

2018-12-12 08:13:25 UTC  

It is what it is

2018-12-12 08:13:29 UTC  

So?

2018-12-12 08:13:37 UTC  

That will define the nation's economy

2018-12-12 08:13:55 UTC  

only because communism is bad for USA, and ruling class is servant to USA enemy, because USA didn't create its own ruling class (because of principles)

2018-12-12 08:16:19 UTC  

my question is, if I am a nation called Diokun nation, and I have 10 billion to invest in USA, how would you stop me from secretly doing it trought black-market means?

2018-12-12 08:16:37 UTC  

answer: you wouldn't

2018-12-12 08:17:08 UTC  

so the only possible way would be to have old nobility systems, which gives rights only to the ones you chose to.

2018-12-12 08:17:16 UTC  

You people are so ridiculous. If there is a problem with rich people, you don't steal from them. You remove their influence.

If there is an epidemic of poor people, ask yourself why are they poor? Has school failed? Will giving them money from the rich help? No! They are poor for a reason and they will stay poor until they understand. Also, there are not nearly enough rich people to make them not poor.

Also, punishments should fit the crime. Some guy is a traitor because he tried to push his political agenda? Ok? Then remove his ability to push agendas, not all his freaking property.

2018-12-12 08:17:44 UTC  

That's theory

2018-12-12 08:17:52 UTC  

The practice is different

2018-12-12 08:18:28 UTC  

"my question is, if I am a nation called Diokun nation, and I have 10 billion to invest in USA, how would you stop me from secretly doing it trought black-market means?" Who cares? Only the outcome matters. And if it is bad, some means of punishment for "the bad guys".

2018-12-12 08:18:28 UTC  

If it were only all so simple

2018-12-12 08:18:40 UTC  

It really is that simple

2018-12-12 08:18:56 UTC  

The problem is not complexity

2018-12-12 08:19:32 UTC  

It's people being scared of the truth. They cannot imagine being poor because of their lacking understanding

2018-12-12 08:20:16 UTC  

Do you think removing influence works? It won't even get so far that you will be able to remove their influence. But even if you would, work-arounds would just be used.

2018-12-12 08:20:25 UTC  

ok, so answer me this: Google has clearly gone rogue. they do everything for china, but won't share technology with USA army, or even private companies. clearly they are deliberate traitors at this point. so, how would you solve this problem? would you allow those traitors to continue to own the money they made from USA business, while being traitors?

2018-12-12 08:21:49 UTC  

Every man has his price Lemmestealyourbike.

2018-12-12 08:21:54 UTC  

I will not wait someone to shoot me in the head to start taking defensive measures...

2018-12-12 08:23:01 UTC  

Even government is not what it seems. You overestimate its power.

2018-12-12 08:28:44 UTC  

@An Elbow are you writing an answer? lol, I am waiting based on the thing I see

2018-12-12 08:30:24 UTC  

@Nikitis Seriously? "Removing influence" is intentionally vague. There is more than one way of doing it. You can silence them by being louder than them, spreading lies or truths that deny everything they say. There are so many options. And no. I know how powerless governments can be. I live in Africa, fool.

@Diokun Rogue? Deliberate traitors? Hilarious how you seem to think you can read their minds. I will not deny your claims about Google, they could be true. But as for the reasons you gave for their claims... You don't seem to understand how business works. It's not about nobility and honour. They follow the money. You are going to have to use much more demonizing evidence than that to back up those claims. You could be right about them being traitors (although I don't think so), but never assume malice where stupidity and pride could suffice. AND why in the world would you think every company would be striving to give their technology to armies? Some people take moral issue with that and have every right to.

2018-12-12 08:31:20 UTC  

It's not going to happen lemmestealyourbike.

2018-12-12 08:31:31 UTC  

That's what you don't seem to understand.

2018-12-12 08:31:41 UTC  

Not everything can just be said and then done.

2018-12-12 08:31:45 UTC  

😂😂😂😉

2018-12-12 08:31:50 UTC  

Oh really now?

2018-12-12 08:32:02 UTC  

Yes it can

2018-12-12 08:32:06 UTC  

The elite will always keep their seat of power.

2018-12-12 08:32:15 UTC  

Not quite

2018-12-12 08:32:19 UTC  

They own government.

2018-12-12 08:32:26 UTC  

Correct

2018-12-12 08:33:03 UTC  

"They own government" only because government refuse to own them. it will always be this way.

2018-12-12 08:33:34 UTC  

That doesn't mean such things are eternal. To imagine any social structure as eternal and unchangeable is shortsighted and the height of stupidity.

2018-12-12 08:33:49 UTC  

republic isn't eternal

2018-12-12 08:33:54 UTC  

Money.

2018-12-12 08:34:00 UTC  

It's what keep things in place.

2018-12-12 08:34:05 UTC  

but certain truths are. if you don't own the money, the money owns you.

2018-12-12 08:35:31 UTC  

You do realise that money had a beginning too right? It can have an end then.

I can agree with you to some extent. There will always be corrupt and power hungry people. But that doesn't necessarily mean that they will always be in power