Message from @ventuz

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2018-12-28 18:35:48 UTC  

Ofc

2018-12-28 18:35:50 UTC  

I get that

2018-12-28 18:36:16 UTC  

"instead insurrectionary anarchist advocate informal organization and put value in attack, permanent class conflict and a refusal..."

2018-12-28 18:36:20 UTC  

What are you?

2018-12-28 18:36:31 UTC  

Oh

2018-12-28 18:36:37 UTC  

I’m centre left lol

2018-12-28 18:36:49 UTC  

Slightly libertarian

2018-12-28 18:37:03 UTC  

why tf do you have the conservative role

2018-12-28 18:37:10 UTC  

No clue tbh

2018-12-28 18:37:21 UTC  

What are you left leaning on?

2018-12-28 18:37:33 UTC  

Well gay rights especially

2018-12-28 18:38:09 UTC  

Somewhat on Immigration although I don’t live in America so its a different situation

2018-12-28 18:38:27 UTC  

What are you left leaning on gay rights?

2018-12-28 18:38:43 UTC  

Everything

2018-12-28 18:38:52 UTC  

Marriage, adoption etc.

2018-12-28 18:39:31 UTC  

What do you think that conservative view of gay marriage is?

2018-12-28 18:39:54 UTC  

Well its not nessecarily left/right

2018-12-28 18:40:08 UTC  

Because those focus more on economic policies

2018-12-28 18:40:24 UTC  

Its more a divide between republican and democrats

2018-12-28 18:40:47 UTC  

And in my experience, those who are against gay marriage are overwhelmingly republican

2018-12-28 18:42:19 UTC  

Depends how far to the right they are. Conservatives for example like myself believe that the gov needs to get out of the gay marriage issue, they should make it legal, BUT they should not force people to perform at these events. For example forcing bakers to make cakes, forcing religious people to be the popes etc

2018-12-28 18:42:56 UTC  

I get that

2018-12-28 18:43:22 UTC  

I wasn’t trying to say that all conservatives are against gay marriage

2018-12-28 18:43:35 UTC  

But much more of them are when you compare them to liberals

2018-12-28 18:43:56 UTC  

But i guess my only disagreement with your assessment is about adoption. I think it incredibly hurts the child to be adopted where they have two fathers

2018-12-28 18:44:22 UTC  

because it is important for achild to have a father figure just as it is important for a child to have a mother figure.

2018-12-28 18:44:31 UTC  

I mean

2018-12-28 18:44:46 UTC  

Its not like America has an abundance of adoptions

2018-12-28 18:45:10 UTC  

Its better than having them grow up in an orphanage

2018-12-28 18:45:37 UTC  

Sure but the same child whould've probably gotten adopted by a father figure and a mother figure

2018-12-28 18:45:54 UTC  

it hurts the child psyche since a father figure teaches you the "tough" side

2018-12-28 18:46:05 UTC  

Ok

2018-12-28 18:46:10 UTC  

2 things

2018-12-28 18:46:31 UTC  

Firstly america has more babies put up for adoption than being adopted

2018-12-28 18:46:59 UTC  

So there is a chance that the child wont be adopted at all

2018-12-28 18:47:10 UTC  

yes but i dont think that the solution to that issue is to hurt the child even more

2018-12-28 18:47:49 UTC  

Secondly, in my experience, gay couples tend to throw traditional gender roles out the window

2018-12-28 18:47:58 UTC  

It really depends on the people

2018-12-28 18:49:34 UTC  

Which is why I think its better to look at the individual(s) when people want to adopt a baby

2018-12-28 18:49:43 UTC  

sure but by not even looking at that issue i do not think that the solution to that problem is to hurt the kids even more. Anyways, it's been really pleasant to discuss on these issues with you, i hope we talk again soon, but I'm going to go to finish the books that I've started

2018-12-28 18:49:54 UTC  

Alright