Message from @ventuz
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Ofc
I get that
"instead insurrectionary anarchist advocate informal organization and put value in attack, permanent class conflict and a refusal..."
What are you?
Oh
I’m centre left lol
Slightly libertarian
why tf do you have the conservative role
No clue tbh
What are you left leaning on?
Well gay rights especially
Somewhat on Immigration although I don’t live in America so its a different situation
What are you left leaning on gay rights?
Everything
Marriage, adoption etc.
What do you think that conservative view of gay marriage is?
Well its not nessecarily left/right
Because those focus more on economic policies
Its more a divide between republican and democrats
And in my experience, those who are against gay marriage are overwhelmingly republican
Depends how far to the right they are. Conservatives for example like myself believe that the gov needs to get out of the gay marriage issue, they should make it legal, BUT they should not force people to perform at these events. For example forcing bakers to make cakes, forcing religious people to be the popes etc
I get that
I wasn’t trying to say that all conservatives are against gay marriage
But much more of them are when you compare them to liberals
But i guess my only disagreement with your assessment is about adoption. I think it incredibly hurts the child to be adopted where they have two fathers
because it is important for achild to have a father figure just as it is important for a child to have a mother figure.
I mean
Its not like America has an abundance of adoptions
Its better than having them grow up in an orphanage
Sure but the same child whould've probably gotten adopted by a father figure and a mother figure
it hurts the child psyche since a father figure teaches you the "tough" side
Ok
2 things
Firstly america has more babies put up for adoption than being adopted
So there is a chance that the child wont be adopted at all
yes but i dont think that the solution to that issue is to hurt the child even more
Secondly, in my experience, gay couples tend to throw traditional gender roles out the window
It really depends on the people
Which is why I think its better to look at the individual(s) when people want to adopt a baby
sure but by not even looking at that issue i do not think that the solution to that problem is to hurt the kids even more. Anyways, it's been really pleasant to discuss on these issues with you, i hope we talk again soon, but I'm going to go to finish the books that I've started
Alright