thats why brazil elected bolsanaro

"Socialism" "works" in very few places

Only in third world countries I guess

Norway and Iceland get away with it because one is an oil state and the other is smaller than many US cities

you're using "socialism" very vaguely, are there many countries that have predominantly planned economies? Last I checked venezuela's economy was largely private

not really

Chavez fucked it up

Socialism is a economic system

not social policy

His "revolution" had a chance of not being a total disaster, if he had invested in refineries and not toilet paper

wahx may i ask you something?

I know it's an economic system, I'm saying neither venezuela nor norway have planned economies

of course @Jack H.

i wasn't talking to you

do you think trump is racist?

my b

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I don't think it's possible to know if someone is racist from afar?

what

but do u think he's said anything racist

nothing comes immediately to mind I guess. He's said a *lot* of things though I'm sure he's said something racist at some point by sheer volume lol

but, no, again nothing comes to mind

why do you ask?

just curious to ask these questions

his shithole Countries comment comes to mind

since you're a liberal

They are shitholes

dont think calling a country a shithole is racist though

just a fact

I mean I think he promotes racism, but that's a bit different from being racist isn't it?

how so?

Well, for example, his rhetoric about immigrants coming from the southern border would make you think that there's a serious problem with crime from undocumented immigrants. I've had this argument on this server before, but there's plenty of evidence that immigrants commit fewer crimes than normal citizens. So it kinda feels like he's promoting racism, making people arrive at the idea that "brown people immigrating illegally are dangerous" when that's not the case. Feels racist because they're predominantly latin american.

which is obviously a slew of races, but that doesn't stop racists ya know

you can't really say an illegal immigrant isnt dangerous if they're instantly breaking the law, they're risking their lives to get into a country

and the southern border is a mess with constant attacks on border patrol

that crime is prosecuted at the same level as a speeding ticket most of the time

if it's a crime at all, most of the time they're seeking asylum

which is legal

so I'm sticking with they're less dangerous because there's decent evidence of that

But anyway the original point is that this has tinges of racist propaganda to it. And that's not to say Trump is racist because I can't prove that and don't want to, but this does incite racists.

Like saying that both sides at Charlottesville were equivalent, however he phrased that, when one side was filled with white supremacists who killed someone