Message from @DragonAshe
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To the extend that you're harassing them
They're a whole conversation around that sentence
ok so if I am calmly talking to you about how shitty you are, is that illegal?
and it makes you cry and jump off a bridge?
Here
"Harassment is governed by state laws, which vary by state, but is generally defined as a course of conduct which annoys, threatens, intimidates, alarms, or puts a person in fear of their safety."
yes that is the broad definition, not legal, of harassment
If your speech is threatening, intimidating, or cause another person to cry in fear then that is harassment
I don't literally mean that someone crying cause of something you said it harassment
Anything can make anyone cry.
That's absurd and you know taht you're misreprensting my point.
no your point is silly
"If you're making someone cry, that's harassment"
That wasn't my point
we're talking from a legal perspective yes?
you said that
that's your statement
we're taking about harassment
from a legal perspective?
or a general one
If you won't lay off someone and keep talking to them until they cry, your speech has become harassment
because your speech is causing the situation
from a legal perspective?
It's not the words themselves that are bad
what situation are you talking about
It's the act of harassing that is
*are we talking about the law or just the word harassment*
Since we're discussing freedom of speech and what is or isn't protected, we should refer to the legal definition
US?
yes
We were talking about US politics
I figured, just clarifying
Free speech is the idea that you are allowed to say whatever the hell you want to even if its offensive or not. You can say what you want. But you cannot say fire in a crowded theater. There is a difference between a call to action, and free speech. If you tell someone to kill themselves that is a call to action. If you tell someone to kill someone else that is a call to action. If you threaten someone that is a call to action. A call to action is illegal.
It started with a discussion on whether or not the covington kids smear was propaganda
I say that it was left wing propaganda promoting the idea that it's okay to deplatform and censor people based on their ideas.
I say that freedom of speech should be protected, and we shouldn't deplatform people over their ideas
Then it turned into when is something free speech or when is it harassment
well if it makes them cry that's harassment, which may or may not be protected under state law
remember
"If you're making someone cry, that's harassment"