Message from @Tom_Servo

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2018-08-13 13:02:03 UTC  

"Add to that her near-complete failure while serving as the nation's top diplomat (including a ludicrously botched "reset" with Russia) and her calls for increasing all manner of surveillance in the service of the global war on terror and you're looking at a huge increase in state power with little sense of balance or responsibility."

2018-08-13 13:02:45 UTC  

Clinton on free speech:

""You're going to hear all of the usual complaints—you know, 'freedom of speech,' etc.," she said. "But if we truly are in a war against terrorism and we are truly looking for ways to shut off their funding, shut off the flow of foreign fighters, then we've got to shut off their means of communicating.""

2018-08-13 13:03:35 UTC  

"Clinton however supported the odious Defense of Marriage Act signed by her husband in the late 1990s, which was an attempt to forestall recognition of gay marriage. In fact, she only embraced marriage equality in 2013, in a conversion that is widely seen as political."

2018-08-13 13:03:45 UTC  

The woman flipflipped incredibly.

2018-08-13 13:04:54 UTC  

She also opposes free trade deals like NAFTA, CAFTA, and the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

2018-08-13 13:05:04 UTC  

She would have been a tragic president.

2018-08-13 13:06:22 UTC  

But let's get sad about Trump's guy talk in a locker room.

2018-08-13 13:06:24 UTC  

Thats why I believe the election failed so badly for the democrats... People are tired of the Clintons...

2018-08-13 13:07:07 UTC  

I think if Sanders was on the ticket, the race could have been different

2018-08-13 13:09:39 UTC  

"If Trump wins I am moving to another country" - Only heard of Madonna moving so far... Cant be that bad in the States

2018-08-13 13:10:17 UTC  

John Cleese is moving to the US, I think.

2018-08-13 13:10:31 UTC  

Hahahaha

2018-08-13 13:10:39 UTC  

Well there you have it

2018-08-13 13:16:28 UTC  

But that is also crap from all these so called celebrities. "If Trump wins, i'm moving blah blah blah" It happens aaaaaaand nothing. They stay and bitch about him not sticking to his word yet they still there. They bitch about him wanting to build a wall, yet have 100m high walls around their own properties and never invite immigrants into their own homes that have 20 open bedrooms. Groups like Antifa that label every Trump supporter a racist/nazi/homophobe simply because they support Trump are the best simply because they 1) half of them do not actual know why they protesting 2) watching them cry is awesome

2018-08-13 13:23:56 UTC  

@Jerm I mentioned specific things which I think are relevant. Put simply :
- He is more dishonest than most
- He is willing to increase human suffering in order to make political gains (might not be unique to him, but his
moves seem more arb.
- He is deliberately divisive

I think these are relevant, and these qualities can be witnessed without looking through the lense of MSM

2018-08-13 13:24:15 UTC  

I don't agree.

2018-08-13 13:24:40 UTC  

@Jerm Thats fine... you can be wrong if you want 😃

2018-08-13 13:24:50 UTC  

Obama was willing - and did - increase human suffering.

2018-08-13 13:25:06 UTC  

Obama deported the most immigrants than any president before him.

2018-08-13 13:25:32 UTC  

@Jerm whoah.... I gave the reasons why I dont like Trump

2018-08-13 13:25:44 UTC  

not the reasons why I like / dislike Obama

2018-08-13 13:26:08 UTC  

He was also the first president in US history to serve 2 full terms at war.

2018-08-13 13:26:30 UTC  

Trump's dishonesty doesn't matter to me.

2018-08-13 13:26:43 UTC  

it doesn't have to matter to you for it to matter

2018-08-13 13:26:55 UTC  

it doesn't matter to the markets either.

2018-08-13 13:27:33 UTC  

Trust is something that matters to markets... and leadership

2018-08-13 13:28:00 UTC  

his dishonesty just hasn't played out there

2018-08-13 13:28:04 UTC  

If that were true, then the markets would show it. They don't.

2018-08-13 13:28:07 UTC  

US Markets are looking good though

2018-08-13 13:28:15 UTC  

Markets are the best since 2014.

2018-08-13 13:28:17 UTC  

But are the US markets not better in a long time under Trump?

2018-08-13 13:28:29 UTC  

I'm not seeing actual data here, other than feelings.

2018-08-13 13:28:29 UTC  

yup

2018-08-13 13:28:40 UTC  

I dislike him "because he's dishonest".

2018-08-13 13:28:59 UTC  

Nobody cares about that.

2018-08-13 13:29:01 UTC  

US markets are doing good for now but they gana go into a recession soon, unfortunately trumps name will be on this recession

2018-08-13 13:29:29 UTC  

@freeplasma_africa can you substantiate?

2018-08-13 13:29:40 UTC  

He's the first US president to help broker a deal with N Korea.

2018-08-13 13:29:50 UTC  

@Jerm well thats not true

2018-08-13 13:29:53 UTC  

He's not nearly as useless as the media portray him.

2018-08-13 13:29:58 UTC  

you cant have your own facts