Message from @Tom_Servo
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A better discussion might be whether or not the economy is sinking due to his policies. The current evidence suggests that it isn't sinking at all.
@Jerm all I did was say why I thought trump was a bad leader. An opinion which I gave reasons for.
i think it was more framed as why I dont like him
I'm sure he is a bad leader in many respects.
why do you ask questions you dont want to hear answers too?
or do you just want people to echo your opinions?
Jerm : Why dont you like trump
ME: Because XYZ
Jerm : No one cares
fact - supported by data..... he lies more than other politicians... a lot more
Okay fine. He lies a lot.
Who cares if Zuma lied a lot. What matters is this.
Compared to this.
honesty indicates to me how someone will conduct business and deal with the power that office gives you. Zuma is a great example. His dishonesty along with a mobilised supporter base that would defend anything he did laid the path for unprecedented state capture. Based on what we have experienced in this country I am weary of leaders who exhibit these brazen levels of dishonesty and are able to unite large portions of the population by being deliberately divisive towards the rest.
it takes time to empty koffers... I am not saying Trump will or is doing that, but what he the character traits he has exhibited makes me think he is more likely to
An honest politician is an oxymoron.
sigh
he is a level of magnitide different to other politicians
that is fact based
This is why I am not an economist... Of course being a leader is subjective, but obviously he is doing something right... The average American is surely benefiting from this. Strong growth means more money in the pockets and more spending. If these numbers continue, no doubt he should get another term... Decreasing socialist policies will also have a positive effect on the economy.
zumas first 3 didnt look so bad either
If you cant trust a president that lies would that mean you would never trust any president.... Since they all lie?
i dont trust any president
or politician
would you agree that Zuma's corruption was on another level to Mbeki's corruption?
yet they were both corrupt
your argument is like saying, well they are all corrupt so we can just except the ridiculous turbo level corruption then
corruption is like a circle, whether it is big or small, it is still 360 degrees...
accept not except
No for sure, corrupt is corrupt and lies are lies.
Zuma's first few years were actually very unstable.
it was just 2009
the rest were fairly stable
The massive dip shows instability. After that was stable, yes.
between 2.3 and 3.5 most of the way
ag come on... you cant say massive and then remove figures
Between 2009 and 2011 were unstable for the SA economy.
Therefore, his first few years were not "didnt look so bad either".
At the time, they were horrid.