Message from @Phalanx

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2019-12-31 17:10:58 UTC  

the universe is infinite, gg

2019-12-31 17:11:08 UTC  

cant have infinite in a non infinite existence

2019-12-31 17:11:14 UTC  

Says you

2019-12-31 17:11:18 UTC  

yes

2019-12-31 17:11:20 UTC  

says me

2019-12-31 17:11:29 UTC  

OK boomer. Watch me

2019-12-31 17:11:31 UTC  

No it doesn't, because you're assuming that we are automatically inclined to only care about ourselves just because we are made in the image of God and animals aren't

2019-12-31 17:11:31 UTC  

hypotheticals can have inifinite beings

2019-12-31 17:11:43 UTC  

Just because we can eat them, doesn't mean we don't have a duty to look after the planet

2019-12-31 17:12:06 UTC  

hypotheticals aren't measurable results that comport to reality necessarily

2019-12-31 17:12:23 UTC  

thats not the point of a hypothetical

2019-12-31 17:12:41 UTC  

if it can only be infinite in a hypothetical, then theres no reason to accept the claim as having any practical implication on reality

2019-12-31 17:12:59 UTC  

It's just used to show conclusions of your worldview

2019-12-31 17:13:03 UTC  

if someone says they are a pacafist

2019-12-31 17:13:10 UTC  

okay, so even if @Phalanx build an ai that would consistently slaughter all life, it would still not be infinite

2019-12-31 17:13:11 UTC  

you dont have to put them in a situation where theyd commit violence

2019-12-31 17:13:15 UTC  

you just have to say

2019-12-31 17:13:25 UTC  

If you were in a situation where your mom was getting raped, would you commit violence

2019-12-31 17:13:27 UTC  

see?

2019-12-31 17:13:29 UTC  

*All animal life

2019-12-31 17:13:30 UTC  

But yeah

2019-12-31 17:13:31 UTC  

so your conclusion of anything being infinite is simply untrue

2019-12-31 17:13:43 UTC  

Its not a logical contradiction

2019-12-31 17:13:48 UTC  

its logically possible

2019-12-31 17:13:54 UTC  

That's besides the point because eating animals in moderation is not as equally morally justifiable as killing all life that isn't human

2019-12-31 17:13:54 UTC  

no, it isnt

2019-12-31 17:14:00 UTC  

it doesnt comport to reality

2019-12-31 17:14:06 UTC  

where is the contradiction

2019-12-31 17:14:31 UTC  

the fact that we live in a zero sum energy universe that's innately finite

2019-12-31 17:14:50 UTC  

thus, nothing infinite within it can exist as any physical state of being

2019-12-31 17:15:05 UTC  

Dude you can't lift a rock up and down infinite times, how're you gonna kill infinite beings?

2019-12-31 17:15:44 UTC  

nah, nah you see @Phalanx

2019-12-31 17:16:20 UTC  

its logically coherent in my hypothetical that doesnt comport to reality

2019-12-31 17:16:47 UTC  

I'm not sure what you are saying at this point

2019-12-31 17:16:49 UTC  

So i can just conclude that lived reality of the practice of your ideology will have a result that doesnt comport to reality

2019-12-31 17:16:57 UTC  

Epic

2019-12-31 17:17:04 UTC  

It's pretty clear what he's saying

2019-12-31 17:17:15 UTC  

So do you reject hypotheticals?

2019-12-31 17:17:23 UTC  

No he doesn't

2019-12-31 17:17:29 UTC  

So whats the point

2019-12-31 17:17:31 UTC  

that your argument is pretty shit when it cant work within the premises of observable reality