Message from @Cortah

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2020-02-12 21:44:27 UTC  

Also if Bernie wanted to make sure people aren't going bankrupt from medical bills maybe he should talk about dismantling the FDA

2020-02-12 21:44:44 UTC  

Instead he's just going to cause a shortage of treatment

2020-02-12 21:45:16 UTC  

Not so well considering all the lobbyists in Washington. If only there was a candidate running right now who doesn't take any sort of large donations or corporate pack money....

2020-02-12 21:45:28 UTC  

I'm reminded of the insulin scandal, wherein the price was raised to such an unnecessary level just because they could.

2020-02-12 21:45:35 UTC  

Lobbyists work with government

2020-02-12 21:45:37 UTC  

Someone who ain't bought and paid for by the system.

2020-02-12 21:45:55 UTC  

The lobbyists cant do anything if you take away the governments power to dish out special favours

2020-02-12 21:48:33 UTC  

A company rasing the price of insulin wouldn't be an issue if the government wasn't handing out patents for these companies which creates monopolies

2020-02-12 21:48:45 UTC  

Also you could buy insulin from walmart for like $25 right?

2020-02-12 21:48:56 UTC  

The price spike youre talking about effected insurance

2020-02-12 21:49:27 UTC  

I dunno. I'm in Canada. My stuff is mostly covered.

2020-02-12 21:49:44 UTC  

I agree with that sentiment about the insulin. Not to mention most of the drugs are funded by tax payer grants yet we don't get any rights to the drugs once they are manufactured.

2020-02-12 21:50:33 UTC  

Yeah drug companies shouldn't be funded by tax

2020-02-12 21:50:45 UTC  

Are there any researchers actively working on an actual cure for diabetes, or did they just say "we have insulin, good enough?"

2020-02-12 21:51:16 UTC  

Also the insane price of drugs in America can easily be put down to the FDA and patents in the medical industry

2020-02-12 21:52:02 UTC  

Explain how the FDA drives up drug prices?

2020-02-12 21:53:00 UTC  

Love to

2020-02-12 21:53:10 UTC  

How much do you think R&D costs drug companies

2020-02-12 21:53:23 UTC  

around 15%-20% of their costs

2020-02-12 21:53:35 UTC  

The production

2020-02-12 21:53:52 UTC  

The cheapest part of the actual process

2020-02-12 21:54:08 UTC  

Costs literal pennies for most pharmaceuticals

2020-02-12 21:54:21 UTC  

Where do you think the rest of the money goes

2020-02-12 21:54:32 UTC  

Regulatory compliance

2020-02-12 21:54:38 UTC  

And procedures and lobbying

2020-02-12 21:54:52 UTC  

The FDA must approve a drug before it's put to market

2020-02-12 21:55:00 UTC  

This process is the most costly part

2020-02-12 21:55:05 UTC  

and can take up to 7 years

2020-02-12 21:55:19 UTC  

Cancer research gets, what? Millions per year? Would it cost people the same amount to get their cancer cured?

2020-02-12 21:56:28 UTC  

Also what if you spend a lot of money on a drug and takes 4 years of FDA approval and then gets rejected in the end

2020-02-12 21:56:33 UTC  

You don't get your time and money back

2020-02-12 21:56:46 UTC  

So you need to raise the prices of the rest of them that actually make it through to the market

2020-02-12 21:56:48 UTC  

Then after that

2020-02-12 21:56:50 UTC  

You get a patent

2020-02-12 21:56:55 UTC  

So no one can copy your drug

2020-02-12 21:57:33 UTC  

Except China. They love reverse-engineering patented American products.

2020-02-12 21:57:41 UTC  

Sorry, I'll stop.

2020-02-12 21:57:44 UTC  

That's ok

2020-02-12 21:58:17 UTC  

IP is bad for consumers

2020-02-12 21:58:20 UTC  

It's anti consumer

2020-02-12 21:58:25 UTC  

And anti business