But the point is, at some point you just can't blame a common person for not investing enough and not working hard enough

Also with IT

A lot of dudes grossly overestimate their competence.

I wanna be an entry level programmer, And then save up money, and do my thing

@Hazard Pluto even tho that is a factor

At some point the system they are in, is just taking everything from them and never rewarding their investments

No one is giving you money, you earn it

True

Even though that is a factor you have to look into the specific field.

^

what im talking about affects everyone

I think you're living in a dream world if you believe that people get paid what they deserve to be paid, it's a dog eat dog world

I mean, you got to work up the ladder till your get your ideal life

And if the big shots can get away with paying you a minimum, they will

@Hazard Pluto well im doing GREAT

It's not that materialistic for some, it may be a lavish life for some too

and I started dirt poor

So yeah I do

thanks

Good for you, didn't ask

It's a dog eat dog world

And I wouldn't have it any other way

it is

Agreed

It is

EARN YOUR SHIT

They think "I can put together a computer that eats Crysis and spits out Cyberpunk and keep it free of malware, so clearly I can maintain a server and keep an entire office networked." - This is basically everyone who I know who got *into* IT then got straight out.

Now how many of those dudes do you think dived into the deep end, and somehow managed to keep their heads afloat in the field.

And it's my world

And I got to work through it

And so do others

Life is a game

If I suck, I suck at it

Not anyone elses fault

Another thing that hurts people is getting into shit they don't need, like payments that will cripple them

Life is not a game, it's a war, and people who think it's a game die first

Sure that $300/mo doesn't sound like much to some, but what are they already paying out of their checks.

@Hazard Pluto NOOOOO, ITS A GAMEEEEEE

I treat war as a game too

AM IN PLAYING GREATTTT

The field of IT is highly competitive, honestly building a career in IT is roughly comparable to building an audience for a podcast using solely the itunes podcast library system.

For strategy