Message from @InsaneCaterpilla
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That will be my defense, and I do have a preliminary hearing set up, hoping to talk to the Public Defender about this, but this was all yesterday, so I'm just now out, at work, and making a plan
Hmm yea, that's best. is it the states you are in? I had a little look and it seems like exemptions/laws differ slightly state to state
In GA, it falls under invasion of privacy/eavesdropping, and lists several aggravating circumstances. She is using the "reasonable expectation of privacy," which I get if she weren't an adultress. What I need to do is look up what rights I have in m own home.
You've probably seen this but this came up, though the language can be a little hard to follow
My friend, this is gold!
or at least Reddit Silver!
I'm glad it helps mate
It does! I want to be as prepared as possible for my PD meeting.
Have not heard good things about our office here
Oof, what kind of things did you hear?
Timetables, activities
At one point, she would only confess to oral and digital penetration, and also "cited" GA Divorce Law that Adultery can only be enacted if PIV intercourse can be proven, so obviously she never admitted to that. I always suspected.
She also stated I could be held liable for slander if I attempted to divorce her under adultery and could not prove it
Well, now I have recording of her saying "I remember the first time, you were so shy and nervous and awkward." And he replied "And then we had sex in the car."
Ah, I meant about the PD office ^^;
Those things are either great or horrible to hear, depending how you currently feel about things...
Perhaps both
It is what it is. I have to deal with the emotional aspect and the legal aspect separately. In terms of the office, they call him the Public Pretender.
And you can't be charged with slander for putting something through the courts, that would only be for you saying something on a public forum which can be demonstrably false, I think
I believe so as well. It would have to be in a way that would damage or discredit a person and cause damage.
[(Messed) Up Date]:
Last we left off, she had found the device. She confronted me about it, where I stated I am allowed to record in my own house, and that I did have damning information. The next morning, she had me arrested for eavesdropping, which is a felony. I went into jail 10AM Tuesday, booked and set a hearing date, and I bailed out 10PM Wednesday. I have an order not to go near her or return to the house.
**New bit of news,** our checks came in last night. Hers is direct to her new personal account, and we have a joint account that our mutual bills come out of, where my checks still get directed. Post-filing, we have emails stating that our money is our own and our bills are our own, and we only transfer to square up. She currently owes me money from previous bills that have come out, and then **she transferred $500 out to her new account**, which violates this agreement. **She stole $500** which § 16-8-12 states is the minimum required for *Felony* Theft by Taking.
My parents are pooling for a good lawyer.
So my question i guess it sort the same. I have cameras in my house to see who comes and goes . Since i separated from my wife she stay in another room but i also placed a camera in my room to see when she comes and goes. That being said while im away i can hear her yell and threating our kids. I have an attorney and bought it up. They told me i cant use it and it’s illegal but the recording would show what kind of mother she is .
Two things, that I will share from my perspective that may get you started on where to look: In our state, it is a one-party consent state. If one party (i.e. ME) consents to the recording, it is admissable.
As for the Eavesdropping charge: if there is a reasonable expectation of privacy, and no party is aware of the recording, that is the basis for the invasion of privacy. There are a couple of trumps - PARENTAL CONCERN trumps expectation of privacy. Let me find our statute...
O.C.G.A. 16-11-62
It shall be unlawful for:
(1) Any person in a clandestine manner intentionally to overhear, transmit, or record or attempt to overhear, transmit, or record the private conversation of another which shall originate in any private place;
(2) Any person, through the use of any device, without the consent of all persons observed, to observe, photograph, or record the activities of another which occur in any private place and out of public view; provided, however, that it shall not be unlawful:
Yo, @InsaneCaterpilla you should either sticky that link you made, or make a locked channel solely for divorce resources
(B) For an owner or occupier of real property to use for security purposes, crime prevention, or crime detection any device to observe, photograph, or record the activities of persons who are on the property or an approach thereto in areas where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy; or
(C) To use for security purposes, crime prevention, or crime detection any device to observe, photograph, or record the activities of persons who are within the curtilage of the residence of the person using such device. A photograph, videotape, or record made in accordance with this subparagraph, or a copy thereof, may be disclosed by such resident to the district attorney or a law enforcement officer and shall be admissible in a judicial proceeding, without the consent of any person observed, photographed, or recorded;
@Dan da Dad I don't think I should, mate, because it's going to differ between states and I dont want to give out inaccurate information which could harm people
I understand that, and the first sticky to that channel should include such provisions (we are not lawyers, and even of we are, this is not legal advice, etc...) because as a place to share stories, we also give each other starting points for where to look for our own specific cases. Just thought I'd bring it up
Your link has been very helpful for starting points for my own searches, for example, even with my new charge. It gives me things to bring to my lawyer so we both start off more evenly in our discussions
Mmm, okies mate, I'll definitely bring up the idea with menarehuman regarding adding a separate channel for divorce resources, I guess we could try and add guidelines for different states, let us know if you find any other useful infos in your search ^^
Will do! This is one of my go-to places for what's going on with my case. Even just the support is a tremendous relief
so im in GA and its was hiding in my room and the way she spoke to my kids is very wrong my lawyer told me not to use
I'm in GA, too! Let me see if I can find what I saw...
(2) Any person, through the use of any device, without the consent of all persons observed, to observe, photograph, or record the activities of another which occur in any private place and out of public view; provided, however, that it shall not be unlawful:
(B) For an owner or occupier of real property to use for security purposes, crime prevention, or crime detection any device to observe, photograph, or record the activities of persons who are on the property or an approach thereto in areas where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy; or
In other words, you are protected (1) unless you are committing a crime
but it was not in the same room , you could over hear her
Your lawyer may be differentiating between legally abusive language and what a reasonable person may consider wrong, but not necessarily illegal
(C) To use for security purposes, crime prevention, or crime detection any device to observe, photograph, or record the activities of persons who are within the curtilage of the residence of the person using such device. A photograph, videotape, or record made in accordance with this subparagraph, or a copy thereof, may be disclosed by such resident to the district attorney or a law enforcement officer and shall be admissible in a judicial proceeding, without the consent of any person observed, photographed, or recorded;
You may ask your lawyer if you need to bring this to the DA or CPS directly
ok im going to copy and paste it to her .