The problem is we are up against a disingenuous and manipulative adversary who will lie without any remorse or regard for consequences

So it’s never a fair debate

Yeah, there's that

Wish we had some kinda way to show them up. I mean, they manufacture statistics by excluding men.

Wish Realsexism.com had archived their links....

It’s up to us now

There’s no more waiting for something to happen, it’s on us to do it. We ARE the cavalry

Yep. Basically.

But we are making headway. We've just got to show people that we won't put up with bullshit.

We just need one breakout moment

Mmmm

It's got to be memorable, but the chances are you can't script that

And getting the attention needed - that's hard.

I think focusing on multiple issues per protest is something we need to avoid. We need to start saying "MRM against X" and just pick one per protest. And make more protests.

That way when the media report it they have to say the subject - not dub us "MRA incels 4 rape"

That was the flaw of the Australian protest - it wasn't about anything because each person was there for a different cause.

Any ideas on how anyone?

Again, focus on the image aspect. Do it in another direction- a music video, actor, something fun. Make it about the person first, THEN the message.

Make it the party everyone wants to go to

I have realized that I don't want to hold all the bad stuff women have done to men over the entire gender. I just want things to change so we can patch up relations

The ones who have committed crimes and gotten off easy should be made to serve proper sentances

Still the future needs to be an egalitarian one or we are heading towards a viscous Matriarchy

@Bobby_Hill That's a good attitude. People who resent other groups end up really stressed and miserable

It's hard to follow when the group you don't want to hate keeps making you want to hate them. @Men Are Human

My god isn't that the truth.

Talking about paper abortions with a completely staunch Feminist pro child support. I was starting to question whether even abortion should be legal.

we will look like the good side when people see we dont have any bias and bigotry towards people for being born a certain way, compared to feminism where "men" and "white" are specifically mentioned as bad things. we might criticize ideas, statements, and opinions, but we do not criticize ethnicities or genders. that s a very telling different in itself

I'm so sick of them saying I'm bigoted when they prop up racism against white people all the fucking time ⌚

Like I get we colonized and shit but we also furthered most of all medical and scientific advancements. If the British empire didn't exist someone else would have done what they did and it would be racism against those people

Idk it's just stupid... Or maybe it's just me

and those things happened before we were born

yet we are still haunted by them all the way into present day for some fucked up reasoning

@Bobby_Hill it's not really women though. It's Feminists. An important distinction to make - it's an ideology, not a gender. Only Feminists see them as the same thing

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/a8jkmb/arguments_have_moved_from_equal_pay_for_equal

@Men Are Human where it mentions giving 'women's fields' higher pay, that sounds somewhat similar to what's happening in Canada in some of the 2018 legislation

@InsaneCaterpilla It does Indeed. Well spotted.

direct discrimination disguised with convoluted and reasonably-sounding language. so you can never directly accuse them with their own words. classic manipulation tactics

I kinda hope this will work out with teachers and nurses getting more - and men filling up more of those roles.

@blueorange22 Indeed

yo, can i be informed on these new Canadian laws? i really need to know

I hope everyone is trying to enjoy the holiday season. Even with all the adversity we face we need to not let it consume us.