Message from @Indigo

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2018-12-27 18:23:22 UTC  

Milieu control involves the control of communication within a group environment, that also may (or may not) result in a significant degree of isolation from surrounding society. When non-group members, or outsiders, are considered or potentially labeled as less valuable without basis for stated group-supported and group-reinforced prejudice, group members may have a tendency to then consider themselves as intellectually superior, which can limit alternate points of view, thus becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy in which group members automatically begin to devalue others and the intellect of others that are separate from their group, without logical rationale for doing so. Additionally, Milieu control "includes other techniques to restrict members' contact with the outside world and to be able to make critical, rational, judgments about information.

2018-12-27 18:23:23 UTC  

@blueorange22 oh yes, it's a classic tactic - though I haven't heard that term for it before.

2018-12-27 18:24:04 UTC  

and look at ehats happening with the womens march, all the infighting. the toxicity of those with malicious intentions colliding with the clueless who are there with good intentions

2018-12-27 18:24:50 UTC  

We should be glad they don't have a core leadership to stop the infighting

2018-12-27 18:25:19 UTC  

see, i think there might be a secret core that IS connecting all of it together and coordinating everything

2018-12-27 18:25:36 UTC  

I'd say probably unlikely.

2018-12-27 18:25:57 UTC  

I mean, looking at all the chaos

2018-12-27 18:26:35 UTC  

I think it's more that they have leaders that push it in a direction, and all those leaders are saying contradictory things

2018-12-27 18:27:27 UTC  

If there was a core leadership, it's likely that the infighting would be minimal and the public spears would be unified.

2018-12-27 18:27:59 UTC  

I think that's why we are starting to see headway.

2018-12-27 18:28:15 UTC  

not so much for the womans march spefifically, but the SJW movement as a whole. it follows another theory called "political ponerology"...essentially the theory that psychopaths recognize each other and ooperate for mutual benefit

2018-12-27 18:29:55 UTC  

thats why you see the same very specific buzzwords and phrases pop up around the world at the same time, and why feminism (despite their insistence to the contrart\y), DOES seem to have an element of being a monolithic entity. infighting breakouts when person power conflicts arise, or people outside of the "bubble" begin to notice the hypocrisy.

2018-12-27 18:30:50 UTC  

Sure, I'm sure they do collaborate. In fact, I'd say the internet is full of small groups doing just that. But I think they are cells.

2018-12-27 18:31:38 UTC  

I think they rally easily because women have a shared identity and feminism feeds off that.

2018-12-27 18:32:39 UTC  

Basically, the same way that mrm groups know they are all on the same side.

2018-12-27 18:34:06 UTC  

The books and so on are what fuel that, and I think Gender Studies and their control of the media explains the conformity of thought. They have been building this ideology for a hundred or so years.

2018-12-27 18:35:24 UTC  

I'm not knocking your idea because it's quite possible that gender studies classes have a network - but we must remember not to fall into the trap of assuming there is a Matriarchy.

2018-12-27 18:36:11 UTC  

Not like it's a matriarchy, rather a corporate oligarchy

2018-12-27 18:36:24 UTC  

Which fuels this

2018-12-27 18:36:51 UTC  

Gender war

2018-12-27 18:37:39 UTC  

yeah, i dont mean a "matriarchy", ponerologies are purely political in nature. male feminists are just as culpable, it's not REALLY about the message, its a vehicle for control

2018-12-27 18:37:46 UTC  

which is why you see such hypocrisy in the first place

2018-12-27 18:38:22 UTC  

Powerful groups of men always panics the establishment

2018-12-27 18:38:32 UTC  

whats most frustrating is how blatantly obvious tha facts and logic are on our side. i dont want to say "we're right, you're wrong, and thats that", but....i mean its pretty hard to disagree with our basic tenets

2018-12-27 18:38:57 UTC  

"higher pension ages is discriminatory" "homeless men shouldnrt be left to freeze to death" etc....

2018-12-27 18:39:41 UTC  

in that sense i think most people are MRAs, they just dont realize it

2018-12-27 18:42:03 UTC  

Yeah, I was compending a list of problems for faq

2018-12-27 18:43:50 UTC  

Male Genital Mutilation being legal worldwide.
98% of Workplace Deaths are men
97% of combat deaths are men
76% of all murder victims are men
Fear of being labeled as pedophiles every time near children.
Less Life Expectancy
Incarceration rate
Male homelessness
Men account 80% of the suicides.
Divorce
Alimony
Child custody
Boys failing in education.
Males college education is falling.
Prostate Cancer Funding is too low.
The Military drafting of only men.
Lack of reproductive rights.
Paternity testing illegal in many countries.
Forced to support somebody else's child.
World doing nothing to combat male child labor.
Male Human trafficking not given importance even though most of the trafficked are boys and men.
Men cannot be raped according to the government.
Men allowed to retire at a later age than women even when they have lower life expectancy.
Male victims of domestic violence getting arrested due to sexist law called Duluth's model which states that men are the primary aggressor and women only use violence in self defense.
Men getting their whole career destroyed due to an allegation.

2018-12-27 18:44:51 UTC  

yet sexist air conditioning is a major issue...

2018-12-27 18:44:54 UTC  

What else we need to add

2018-12-27 18:45:20 UTC  

Is there?

2018-12-27 18:45:23 UTC  

i think that covers almost all of it, we can add more be going into specifics

2018-12-27 18:45:28 UTC  

lol no

2018-12-27 18:45:37 UTC  

but feminists claim that it's an oppression issue

2018-12-27 18:48:13 UTC  

@Indigo Do you know about realsexism.net

2018-12-27 18:48:20 UTC  

Yeah

2018-12-27 18:48:24 UTC  

sounds familiar

2018-12-27 18:48:42 UTC  

It's old now, but a lot of good stats

2018-12-27 18:48:51 UTC  

A few need more backing up