Y was really strong because stab heatwave in strong sunlight was just disgusting, then you would follow him up with Chlorophyll Grass types with instant solarbeams

Weather teams have always been good meta

I remember though when I played not many people used Sun teams, could beat them ok. Rain teams were harder even though swift swim was uber and not allowed

Well before Charizard Y, you only access to drought was Hidden ability Ninetails (which isn’t even that great) or groudon which would have pushed you up into Ubers

Ninetales is alright if you use it as a wall instead of trying to destroy anything with it

Or it was anyway

You mean curse ninetails?

The sun would cut its weakness by half when it comes out too

Well water but is still bad against ground, and earthquake is one of the most common attacks in meta

I’m not saying it was all bad, it just got completely outclassed in the one niche it had xD

It is. I used to like using an arena trap dugtrio with a focus sash

Dugtrio is weak as he'll but it's fast and it's stab eq will kill anything weak to it

Can dugrtio learn flail? I’ve honestly never really used it before

Flail? You only flail when you have no pp left

No that’s struggle

Oh. Oops

Flail is where you do more damage the less health you have

Hm. Idk, maybe. I can't remember what set I had. It was years ago >.<

That’s fair, flail is basically the reason people can do magikarp sweeps on full Uber teams

Belly drum Barton pass over to magikarp with focus sash and flail, adamant, max attack and speed, it can ohko a lot of big things

Yea baton pass smeargle was annoying. Don't think baton pass is in lets go though

I just checked, it can get reversal by egg moves

Such a troll to use magikarp to do that though, could use basically anything xD

I feel like they have taken out a lot of the more interesting moves... can still use quiver dance butterfree though, might try and make that my next shiny

Copying me ;_;

Yes, ofc xD

Actually one of my all time favourites to use was quiver dance Volcarona

I really dk what to use as a third move on butterfree though. Psychic gives extra coverage against poison, but most poison are grass or bug which air slash gets anyway. Both air slash and psychic are good vs fighting. Shadow ball would give coverage against gengar but vs psychics bug buzz will usually be better anyway

I guess mega drain for rock nd ground is best

And water

But it's only 60 base attack

With no stab

Yea I love volcarona... Favourite bug type to use competetively

Never been a fan of genesect

Or forretress. Prefer ferrothorn

I was actually thinking more along the lines of sleep powder, gives you extra time to set up your dances

1/4 chance to miss

Still, butterfree is a glass cannon, so better then nothing

And facing a butterfree I'd switch, so you get one setup only

After sleep powder I'd switch I mean

Shame it can't learn spore