Message from @Water

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2019-01-05 22:06:41 UTC  

@Krille P. explain a direct threat to me or my way of life that doesn’t involve violence?

2019-01-05 22:07:34 UTC  

Change of values around you and implicit violence that will only happen when you're old and too weak to act

2019-01-05 22:08:01 UTC  

The spread of communism, degeneracy, the destruction of culture, etc.

2019-01-05 22:08:40 UTC  

So what you’re saying is, the biggest threat to anarcho-capitalist society is people deciding not to be anarcho-capitalist?

2019-01-05 22:09:29 UTC  

The biggest threats to anarcho-capitalism are that egoism and in-group preference exist

2019-01-05 22:09:53 UTC  

But ancap is a theory based in egoism, making it pointless anyway

2019-01-05 22:10:33 UTC  

You didn't ask about that, I have alredy explained the biggest treath to an an-cap "society" (which would be nothing more than a bunch of local warlords with private militias waring for total dominance)

2019-01-05 22:11:01 UTC  

What makes you think that?

2019-01-05 22:11:34 UTC  

also one at a time, let’s be respectful of each other’s discussion and make sure everything is addressed.

2019-01-05 22:11:49 UTC  

ancaps act as if everyone in their society wanted to play 1000D chess to find out everything about everyone and even then be unable to play beneath the law

2019-01-05 22:13:00 UTC  

i don’t know who you’ve been talking to, but i just advocate non-aggression.

2019-01-05 22:13:36 UTC  

How about being natural and rallying behind a tribal leader that will take care of your village and make it grow and prosper?

2019-01-05 22:13:37 UTC  

if you’d like to object to something i actually believe in, be my guest.

2019-01-05 22:14:02 UTC  

Ancap isn't really true anarchism, since corporations effectively replace the conventional state

2019-01-05 22:14:11 UTC  

oh no

2019-01-05 22:14:15 UTC  

it’s retarded

2019-01-05 22:14:18 UTC  

Get a better name <:lol:521377935672737792>

2019-01-05 22:14:27 UTC  

get better ideas libtard

2019-01-05 22:14:34 UTC  

Water is a really good name, mr. spook

2019-01-05 22:14:52 UTC  

Because if you abolish police, courts, etc. the capitalists will found their own police forces, etc. They will then procced to wage war in a bid to control resources, this is common sense. I have never ever read a minarc/ancap philosopher deal with this problem other than in the likes of "freemarket will surely fix it"

2019-01-05 22:15:41 UTC  

Wars are massively expensive, and you’re assuming they’ve got enough soldiers willing to fight and die for someone else’s personal gain.

2019-01-05 22:16:02 UTC  

I find it unlikely that it would be profitable for anyone to put that much of a target on their back.

2019-01-05 22:16:19 UTC  

In general, those who violate the rights of others forfeit their own.

2019-01-05 22:17:22 UTC  

Fighting a war in an ancap society is like gambling, but obviously they would use genetically modified child slave soldiers

2019-01-05 22:17:49 UTC  

Because the genetically modified children agree to this, and forfeit their rights by initiating violence sure.

2019-01-05 22:18:16 UTC  

ok this is epic

2019-01-05 22:18:16 UTC  

although, that brings in statutory discussion and such.

2019-01-05 22:18:20 UTC  

It will not be war since that requires some sort of institutions (is a form of institution really), more like ooga-booga raids. Also the "war" part isn't the most problematic. How would people living in a geographical area where a protection company that uses illegal methods like extortion, kidnaping, etc. deal with this problem? Go to the police? Oh right, we abolished those and replaced them with the people causing the strife

2019-01-05 22:19:29 UTC  

Water stop defending ancap, you're making yourself look worse

2019-01-05 22:19:56 UTC  

Assuming this protection company is the only organized group in the entire area, individuals have the right to defend themselves from that type of action.

2019-01-05 22:20:25 UTC  

It's not in their interest to resist

2019-01-05 22:20:36 UTC  

Sure it is, why wouldn’t it be?

2019-01-05 22:20:49 UTC  

if someone is stealing from you, you stop em’.

2019-01-05 22:20:58 UTC  

Because death is the maximum bad trade for an individual

2019-01-05 22:21:07 UTC  

would you not shoot a home invader?

2019-01-05 22:21:19 UTC  

Not when they outnumber you and have you surrounded

2019-01-05 22:21:24 UTC  

*One man exits with shotgun, then the company comes with armoured cars and machine guns* so the only thing that protects them is the good-will of the dominant company? That will surely work

2019-01-05 22:21:41 UTC  

Congratulations, you’ve figured out how gangs work.

2019-01-05 22:21:49 UTC  

Do you want a medal?

2019-01-05 22:21:52 UTC  

So ancap is mafia city

2019-01-05 22:22:05 UTC  

And what will prevent protection companys becoming gangs?