Message from @Krille P.
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Its stupid
like how anarchy is stupid
if people stop participating in government, eventually they won’t have the power to control others.
every single instance of anarchy was achieved via violence
People won't stop participating in government
anarchy is stupid and bad but we don’t have a great term, voluntarist is probably more accurate.
Even egoists are better being there than helping you
Yeah but like Hegel said "*after every period of anarchy follows the ultimate tyrany*"
@Bearer Of The Curse no matter what type of government you want to employ, you have to start with people who want it.
So he is actually right on this one
and Hegel’s word is magic absolute law?
@Krille P. strange, because Marxism rooted from Hegel
and the final goal of communism is anarchy
ancoms have big retarded
same with ancaps
and voluntarists
i just think initiating violence is wrong, where’s your objection?
some evils are necessary
how so?
Did humanity grow from being hippies?
just live and let live maaaaaaaaan
of course not, pacifism is stupid.
yet you sound like youre a pacifist
i believe violence is perfectly acceptable if used in the defense of yourself or others around you.
or a diet coke pacifist
and that is perfectly ok
What about pre-emptive self-defence?
Basically every other kind of violence good, physical violence bad
yea, eliminating something before it becomes a threat
if someone has expressed clear intent to seriously harm you and you’ve got proof they’re willing to do so, go ahead.
extinguishing the fire before it becomes a wildfire
so you wait until it affects you
How would you proof such a thing? That's not clear cut
do you remember that quote in history class? about the nazis?
it’s not clear cut with government, either.
"First they came for X, and I didnt say anything because im not X"
What about people running around shooting people under the guise of self defence?
"Then they came for Y, and I didnt say anything because im not Y"
That's not an argument tard, answer my question
"Then they came for me, and there was no one left to defend me"