you completely rely on paper, thinking that it actually changes the way people behave.

@Water and who enforces that

Who would determine if the person "violated" these rights?

i rely on the ability to defend myself, and the services provided to enhance that.

@Water I can also rely on the ability to defend myself

AND THE STATE

And what is the gradient of "forfeiting the criminal's rights"?

Then why do you need the state to do it for you?

If I steal a loaf of bread, will I be punished the same way as if I killed a man?

If i cant defend myself

Im fucked

in your society

but you wouldnt care

because its not you getting shanked

private security work almost exactly like cops, you know that right?

and how will these cops be funded

voluntary payment from their constituents, likely landlords and HOAs.

how is this any different than paying taxes

I can opt out and I won’t be shot.

I wont be shot for tax fraud

holy shit

ill just get arrested

also youre technically on the states land

if you never pay taxes the government will either steal your money or kidnap you and lock you in a cage, if you resist you die.

Its voluntary you know

v o l unt are

Whats stopping you from just living a life that lacks taxes

what do you mean “lacks taxes”?

don’t pay them?

Well, tell me what makes you have taxes due

the state extorts those living in it through taxation.

and what is their justification

Is it having a job?

because they’re the state and have the magic divine right to use violence against others.

Some people live off-grid.

@Water Do you pay taxes

Of course.

Or grid-free or however it's called.

Then what *specifically* are you paying

for

if people are living off the grid completely, they’re doing it illegally.