Message from @PunishedMuskovy
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Yes
I like living in a society where I know people wont do things that could hurt me
what makes you so sure?
because they know if they do, the police will get em
Yes, since it punishes people who break the ""law"", and people by nature don't want to be punished.
the punishment for violating someone else’s right to self-ownership would be the forfeit of one’s own rights.
you completely rely on morals, thinking that everyone will suddenly be peaceful
you completely rely on paper, thinking that it actually changes the way people behave.
@Water and who enforces that
Who would determine if the person "violated" these rights?
i rely on the ability to defend myself, and the services provided to enhance that.
@Water I can also rely on the ability to defend myself
AND THE STATE
And what is the gradient of "forfeiting the criminal's rights"?
Then why do you need the state to do it for you?
If I steal a loaf of bread, will I be punished the same way as if I killed a man?
If i cant defend myself
Im fucked
in your society
but you wouldnt care
private security work almost exactly like cops, you know that right?
and how will these cops be funded
voluntary payment from their constituents, likely landlords and HOAs.
how is this any different than paying taxes
I can opt out and I won’t be shot.
I wont be shot for tax fraud
holy shit
ill just get arrested
also youre technically on the states land
if you never pay taxes the government will either steal your money or kidnap you and lock you in a cage, if you resist you die.
Its voluntary you know
v o l unt are
Whats stopping you from just living a life that lacks taxes
what do you mean “lacks taxes”?
don’t pay them?
Well, tell me what makes you have taxes due
the state extorts those living in it through taxation.
and what is their justification
Is it having a job?
because they’re the state and have the magic divine right to use violence against others.