Message from @PunishedMuskovy

Discord ID: 531257279568150528


2019-01-05 23:42:22 UTC  

Not "beating them with a crowbar".

2019-01-05 23:42:37 UTC  

punished wants to beat them with a crowbar apparently.

2019-01-05 23:42:50 UTC  

wew

2019-01-05 23:42:51 UTC  

>steal
You do realize you are putting property above human being here, right?

2019-01-05 23:42:57 UTC  

yea

2019-01-05 23:43:14 UTC  

not at all, i’m saying that you don’t have the right to steal something from another person.

2019-01-05 23:43:29 UTC  

says who

2019-01-05 23:43:41 UTC  

says government in our current case.

2019-01-05 23:43:52 UTC  

tell me

2019-01-05 23:43:54 UTC  

what is the state

2019-01-05 23:44:18 UTC  

the state is a group of individuals with the perceived right to initiate force over a certain geographical area.

2019-01-05 23:44:47 UTC  

how does that differ from a family

2019-01-05 23:44:52 UTC  

who owns property

2019-01-05 23:45:04 UTC  

you don’t shoot your kids when they disobey.

2019-01-05 23:45:22 UTC  

<:brainlet:508484031625691156>

2019-01-05 23:45:30 UTC  

I said family for a fucking reason

2019-01-05 23:45:38 UTC  

But if the father would ground his kids you would barge into their room screaming "What do you want to do, kill them?!"

2019-01-05 23:45:58 UTC  

is it ok for father joe to spank his kids

2019-01-05 23:46:25 UTC  

because spanking is violence

2019-01-05 23:46:26 UTC  

generally kids are under custody of parents until a certain age, and don’t exhibit the same protections grown adults do.

2019-01-05 23:46:45 UTC  

but its violence against another individual

2019-01-05 23:46:57 UTC  

not with the intent to significantly harm them.

2019-01-05 23:47:25 UTC  

and my intent against alcohol man is not to harm him

2019-01-05 23:47:26 UTC  

How does that differ from your alcoholic friend?

2019-01-05 23:47:40 UTC  

but to damage his supply of alcohol

2019-01-05 23:48:09 UTC  

what gives you the right to decide what another person can and cannot have?

2019-01-05 23:48:32 UTC  

Back to the kids question.

2019-01-05 23:48:43 UTC  

Who am I to decide what my kids should do?

2019-01-05 23:48:57 UTC  

their parent, that’s who.

2019-01-05 23:49:04 UTC  

the government is not my parent, though.

2019-01-05 23:49:04 UTC  

And I am his friend.

2019-01-05 23:49:17 UTC  

you aren’t his parent, and you don’t have custody over him.

2019-01-05 23:49:45 UTC  

Why do you think only in terms of "ownership"?

2019-01-05 23:49:57 UTC  

the kids are my property in ancapistan i guess

2019-01-05 23:50:01 UTC  

There are so many symbiotic relationships even in nature.

2019-01-05 23:50:08 UTC  

custody and property are different.

2019-01-05 23:50:31 UTC  

you’re allowed to have a symbiotic relationship, but only voluntarily.

2019-01-05 23:50:50 UTC  

you can’t force it on someone, or else it isn’t mutual.

2019-01-05 23:51:04 UTC  

If a part of my relationship wants to kill themselves I will prevent that by force.

2019-01-05 23:51:22 UTC  

Would you?

2019-01-05 23:51:28 UTC  

how long can you stop them?