Message from @PunishedMuskovy

Discord ID: 531259073782611979


2019-01-05 23:50:31 UTC  

you’re allowed to have a symbiotic relationship, but only voluntarily.

2019-01-05 23:50:50 UTC  

you can’t force it on someone, or else it isn’t mutual.

2019-01-05 23:51:04 UTC  

If a part of my relationship wants to kill themselves I will prevent that by force.

2019-01-05 23:51:22 UTC  

Would you?

2019-01-05 23:51:28 UTC  

how long can you stop them?

2019-01-05 23:51:37 UTC  

what lengths do you go to?

2019-01-05 23:51:42 UTC  

If your friend stands on a roof and wants to jump off, will you let them jump?

2019-01-05 23:51:53 UTC  

how will you stop them?

2019-01-05 23:52:12 UTC  

Persuasion and/or force.

2019-01-05 23:52:29 UTC  

But I am asking, will you stop them?

2019-01-05 23:52:32 UTC  

okay, you use force. they resist with greater force, now what?

2019-01-05 23:52:44 UTC  

Will you attempt to stop your friend?

2019-01-05 23:52:47 UTC  

water, if your only method to stop your best friend from killing himself is force

2019-01-05 23:52:50 UTC  

will you use force

2019-01-05 23:52:51 UTC  

From killing himself?

2019-01-05 23:53:00 UTC  

will you use violence

2019-01-05 23:53:08 UTC  

This goes into something I mentioned earlier.

2019-01-05 23:53:25 UTC  

most ancaps are a lot more rigid on the NAP than i am

2019-01-05 23:53:30 UTC  

water

2019-01-05 23:53:34 UTC  

just answer the fucking question

2019-01-05 23:53:53 UTC  

if your only chance to stop your bets friend from killing himself is to use violence

2019-01-05 23:53:56 UTC  

will you use violence

2019-01-05 23:53:57 UTC  

Will you stop your friend from jumping off a roof with violence?

2019-01-05 23:54:01 UTC  

or will you let him die

2019-01-05 23:54:01 UTC  

depending on the circumstances i would use force to prevent a greater violation of rights, yes.

2019-01-05 23:54:16 UTC  

suicide is a violation of rights...?

2019-01-05 23:54:17 UTC  

but i would not significantly harm them to prevent it.

2019-01-05 23:54:20 UTC  

What is this "greater violation of rights"?

2019-01-05 23:54:36 UTC  

they have a right to life, if they take their own that’s a violation.

2019-01-05 23:54:37 UTC  

so water will let his friend die

2019-01-05 23:54:58 UTC  

only if seriously harming them is the only way to stop them.

2019-01-05 23:55:00 UTC  

because his dopamine worship wont allow him to save a life

2019-01-05 23:55:13 UTC  

It's their right to not use their right to live though.

2019-01-05 23:55:15 UTC  

i won’t blow his leg off to stop him from hanging himself.

2019-01-05 23:55:28 UTC  

you don’t give yourself rights, rights are not a community.

2019-01-05 23:55:55 UTC  

commodity reeee*

2019-01-05 23:56:07 UTC  

so water's only opposition to his best friend killing himself...is that suicide is a violation of rights

2019-01-05 23:56:18 UTC  

doesnt care that its his best friend fucking dying

2019-01-05 23:56:22 UTC  

noooo its MUH RIGHTS

2019-01-05 23:56:28 UTC  

if he kills himself, he dies. that’s my objection.

2019-01-05 23:56:32 UTC  

I would not wish to be your friend *and* have depression, Water.