Islam conquered the entire Persian Empire (well, sasinad or however the f*** you spell it) and half the Byzantine empire and less than 200 years

sassanid

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Mind you, after the creation of the religion not just the start of the campaign

though the caliphates did start shrinking overtime

until ottomans got big, then they started going senile

@PunishedMuskovy you can thank the Mongols for that

The persians and byzantines were weakend by constant battles between each other tho

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oh no

@Khat Emperor yeah, they couldn't f****** figure out where the Border should be

Stupid Middle East with its lack of cleared Geographic boundaries

And then people wonder why Syria and Iraq or a f****** mess

Because they're savages.

no, that's the fault of colonialism. they drew borders on maps instead like Europe with sword and blood

@Bird Wizard true that's where the modern borders are, but trying to make a genuine borders would be nigh impossible.

yep, that's why they need a period of slaughter to properly draw borders

Truth is, besides the original Mesopotamian civilization, Iraq and Syria I've always been owned by either Anatolia, Persia, Arabia, or Egypt

Glass. The. Desert.

gay

or macedonia

thisincludesbosnians

@Bird Wizard I'm counting European powers as Anatolia

we wuz kangz

Since they had to go through Anatolia anyways

balkan power

Oh the Balkans, the Afghanistan of Europe

difference

Albanians=inbred

Well, from a Geographic point of view anyway

balkans actually got conquered on more than 1 occassion

no one except the mongols was able to touch afghanistan

not the british empire, not the soviets, and not america

That's not true. Afghanistan has been conquered plenty of times throughout history, the problem has always been asserting authority over the tribes.

but we are probbaly just there for opium

@PunishedMuskovy there is a difference between Total Conquest and simply exerting control over the area, you can conquer the valleys, but the hills are practically unconquerable

@εïз irma εïз omg leave

It's just a meme for pseudointellectual armchair historians to circlejerk over.

afghanistan is a death trap while balkans is furtile land