not only anticommunism, but fundamentally anti-socialist as well @Nikitis

But

What about the Holodomor

actually ben shapiro said that @Xinyue

You still haven't given a reaction to that

but I wouldnt be surprised if crowder said it either

oh. I didn't know. Shapiro and Crowder are the quintessential boomer talking point regurgitation team though

although Rubin is giving them a run for their money

oh god they are all so fucking dishonest tbh

Where was the equality when millions of Ukrainians were left to starve to death

You might want to consider though that the kulaks literally killed livestock by the hundreds of thousands. What the USSR did was also bad, but the causes for the famine were actually multifaceted.

Did someone say gulag?

I consider the great purges to be more of an indictment on the USSR in that period than the famine was

because that was 100% intentional

and originated from the soviet government

@Xinyue speaking of regurgitated anticommunist arguments

something which was rightly condemned and decounced during de-Stalinization

there were many problems in the early period, and these problems were necessarily emergent because of the nature of the Czarist era Russia on one hand and the nature of the transition and the first world war on the other hand

Purges were the only thing that Saved Them

wtf

They removed all the 👃

In 1933, 6,114 people classified as "outdated elements," which is both a strangely innocuous name for people so unwelcome they were sentenced to death, as well as a pretty sweet title for our '80s techno band. The outdated elements were sent to Nazino Island in Siberia. 27 of them died on the journey.

the gulag system itself wasn't *invented* by the Soviets, but rather inherited from the Czarist era, much like the secret police itself. These were historical institutions in the Russian Empire, passed on

Anyone who tried to escape was hunted for sport by the soldiers. There were no shelters or animals on the island, little vegetation, and absolutely no food. It didn't take long for the prisoners to start eating the dead, and then helping the living become the dead a bit faster so they could eat them too. Here's a detailed account of a girl stranded on the island who suffered this very fate, but you shouldn't read it without first looking at pictures of kittensfor an hour.

We should label the entire New Left as outdated elements and send them to Gulags

then I'd support Socialism

the Gulags were mistake in my mind

and they were rightly abolished post-Stalin

why

because there's actually no moral justification for it

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cuck

I get that there exists this whole gathering of people today who, imbued with edgy online culture, think that the more edgier and brutal something is, the better that thing is. And I take most of that talk as just banter, but honestly sometimes I worry if there are people who unironically live and breathe this kind of worldview.

How can someone read that article i just posted and not want to send them to a Gulag tho 😩

He also believed that animals will sometimes give birth to different kinds of animals because there is no such thing as a "species" in nature. Stalin was so in love with these theories that he declared them the official scientific doctrine of the Soviet Union. Anyone who opposed them was either imprisoned or executed. In the end, about 3,000 biologists lost their jobs and/or life because they dared suggest that a dog couldn't give birth to a cat if it just wanted it bad enough.

Because that is not how wholesome people act, Storm. That is how fundamentally damaged and broken people act in relation to others.

I take it you're against the Death Penalty then..? @Xinyue

*crickets*

Now I'm going to state a possibly controversial opinion, I think familiarizing people with violence isn't always a bad thing.. i haven't completely formed an opinion on this but.. in the past there used to be all kinds of things crucifixions n all.. and people used to be hardy, see that as just punishment for someone who wanted to subvert their society..

now people are more meek, and tolerant, part of that i think is required for the functioning of Democracy, but since i don't see democracy as a virtue, I'm beginning to question all these feminine morals and injunctions against violence and barbarism as well..

Oh my god

Again, i don't have a fully formed opinion on this, could be that this is completely counter productive to my actual goals.. but I'm contemplating 🤔