Well yeah, I've also read La Dottrina but it certainly doesn't seem to be revolutionary to me.

How about this. Fascism is neither revolutionary nor reactionary, but it is fundamentally *interventionist* ? @The Big Oof

damn, just another word for reactionary

Yes, but since he rejects the label what am I supposed to do?! 😄

Every post-enlightenment political ideology is revolutionary, how hard is this to understand?

```And living conditions were consistently rising in USSR, population was growing and the education levels were rising, etc. It was going pretty well until the era of stagnation triggered by Brezhnev's failure and then later driven to ground by Gorbachev```

also about this mate, u totally don't take into account why this is unsustainable.. there might have been population growth at that time but integrating women into the work force and then Liberalising Divorce laws, you have a breakdown of the nuclear family in process which in the case of Marxists isn't misguided, it is very intentional and you never admit to this mate @Xinyue

Isn't the sole object of Fascism to intervene in the society which it sees to be in a state of decline?

The sole object of *any* enlightenment political ideology is to solve man’s problems politically

this fucking retarded argument people keep bringing up "oh standards are rising" it can rise from 0 to 1 and u can still say that

Are you guys still not swallowing the pill

swallow the capbol pill

> Every post-enlightenment political ideology is revolutionary, how hard is this to understand?

...no, that is not true. Contrary to what appear to be your observation, *history moves forward as conditions develop.* Its not that every ideology is now suddenly "revolutionary" by design, its just that the ideologies adjusted themselves to new conditions. This shift you see as revolutionary, and you assign the label to everything in this new age, but this doesn't mean that any of that is true or reflective of the actual development of society.

Fascism was unique to Europe, it's weird how Americans even discuss it as it is irrelevant to their nation

material wealth rising hardly means anything when you look at the trajectory of many societies.. it is a slow motion and somewhat comfortable death.

History does indeed move forward, but not in the way you think it does

Some brands of fascism are actually applicable to America, in some sense. Nazism isn't, but then again its not the only form.

The utopia you envision will never be created by man

it falls just as quickly and usually people just expect some kind of growth even if its contained or redistributed to give an illusion of growth

Fascism had to do with the catholic church which worships a man of flesh as God

I could see Mosleyism or Falangism applied to the U.S

@Nikitis Wot

Which deep down in the souls of men sparks fascism

aryan wasn't just its genes, it was also the spirit of the aryan

Hitler was literally anti Catholic

Fascism is the man taking things into his own hands

Catholics don’t worship a “man of flesh” lol

```Fascism had to do with the catholic church which worships a man of flesh as God```

....what? What is this? It doesn't make any sense

Yet he was also catholic

no part in this makes sense

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He was an Atheist

The Vatican financed the nazis

No, he wasn't, that was his public image @Nikitis

In private he took a very different stance

The Vatican caused mussolini to get in power

according to those close to him

Don't all Christians believe Christ was God in the Flesh? Is it not inherent to the Trinity? Christians haven't believe he wasn't since Arius.

The Vatican is ghey

Catholicism, as with Christianity in general, isn't the brightest of doctrines, but while it has connection to Fascist doctrines outside Germany, it didn't necessarily emerge directly from it

The catholic church preaches a man of flesh to be christ

Mussolini converted I think

who cares if they did, fascism was obviously a better choice over anarchists that killed priests