Message from @Nikitis

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2018-12-13 08:42:57 UTC  

anyone defending any system has "apologia" and blood all over him. Capitalism - defined here as societal systems of private property - has killed upwards 100 million at least, and monarchism - defined here as systems where the crown is ultimately the owner of the whole realm - sits comfortably at around 145 million dead. So if me arguing for communism and its continued relevance to pressing contemporary problems is "apologia" then all of us dabble in it

2018-12-13 08:43:40 UTC  

Communism is too much ideology for it to work

2018-12-13 08:43:43 UTC  

is my criticism of Communism ever been the Death Count?

2018-12-13 08:43:56 UTC  

"apologia" implied it, in my mind

2018-12-13 08:44:04 UTC  

my bad if wrong

2018-12-13 08:44:26 UTC  

Not gay reddit do you have a job?

2018-12-13 08:44:33 UTC  

I'm a student presently

2018-12-13 08:44:45 UTC  

Will you move to NK or China?

2018-12-13 08:44:51 UTC  

No, and why should i

2018-12-13 08:44:53 UTC  

Or Venezuela?

2018-12-13 08:44:58 UTC  

I don't see the Leftist Argument for Socialism as convincing and given its impacts on society i don't think it's sustainable.

2018-12-13 08:44:59 UTC  

Well idk

2018-12-13 08:45:01 UTC  

Venezuela could be a place to move into

2018-12-13 08:45:08 UTC  

They seem like countries that attract you

2018-12-13 08:45:31 UTC  

I heard Venezuela is doing great at the moment

2018-12-13 08:45:44 UTC  

I have thought of trying to organise some kind of leftist aid group, that could go there to help. Its quite honestly very telling of the left that, whereas the 60,000 leftists flocked to help the Spanish Republicans in the civil war, ***nobody has gone to help venezuela from the millennial generation***

2018-12-13 08:45:57 UTC  

none

2018-12-13 08:46:00 UTC  

its dead silence

2018-12-13 08:46:03 UTC  

and honestly disgusting

2018-12-13 08:46:13 UTC  

Venezuela isn't real Socialism so

2018-12-13 08:46:19 UTC  

Not real socialism

2018-12-13 08:46:29 UTC  

Not real communism

2018-12-13 08:46:36 UTC  

the goal is quite clearly real socialism, but just through non-lethal, gradual means

2018-12-13 08:46:40 UTC  

Chavez made this clear

2018-12-13 08:46:48 UTC  

He kidnapped his political opponent

2018-12-13 08:46:58 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-13 08:47:08 UTC  

that is always fun

2018-12-13 08:47:13 UTC  

Does being communist also imply defending criminals?

2018-12-13 08:47:45 UTC  

If you look at Venezuela, you have a system which was working towards socialism. That is, joint ownership of the means of production. There were mass initiatives to get cooperatives going, and communalization programs to create communes as a new division of administration, complete with vastly increased commons at their disposal.

2018-12-13 08:47:56 UTC  

if theft is a crime, all Socialists are advocates for criminals<:ancap:521375203893182472>

2018-12-13 08:47:56 UTC  

To dismiss this as "no true socialism" would be disingenuous.

2018-12-13 08:48:02 UTC  

I used to maintain that opinion

2018-12-13 08:48:03 UTC  

but,

2018-12-13 08:48:06 UTC  

upon closer reflection,

2018-12-13 08:48:08 UTC  

it was false

2018-12-13 08:48:27 UTC  

i like Venezuela

2018-12-13 08:48:36 UTC  

the shitty older Venezuela no doubt 😄

2018-12-13 08:48:41 UTC  

because of them the entire Southern American Continent is Right Wing now

2018-12-13 08:48:46 UTC  

oh

2018-12-13 08:48:47 UTC  

*oh*

2018-12-13 08:48:51 UTC  

new angle there 😄