and doctrine

thinking abiding by the rules of the bible saves them

You put your faith in a man, *yourself*

no i put my faith in god

Why don’t you even capitalise His name then

do you think he cares about such nonsense?

Did it not occur to you that perhaps Jesus may have put certain humans in charge of preaching his message after he left this world?

Does he care about anything?

he cares about us yes

Because he literally did in the Bible

the apostles were the first true believers

"Trust God, not men! ...well, trust Peter I guess, and Paul..."

What would happen if you believed in God, and then massacred a whole family and were killed in the process?

what do you think would happen

Would you be ushered into heaven?

do you think god just takes shit like that?

It’s a work

ofcourse not

I presume we are also to trust the various writers who wrote the various books of the Bible and the men who decided which books would be included and cannonized

are you assuming god is a dumbass? lol

So He cares about our works now?

he doesnt care about work at all

Read James

Spoiler alert you're wrong

Right, so I could massacre a whole family and immediately go to heaven

Ephesians 2:8-9 New International Version (NIV)
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

READ JAMES

this is already clear

so that no one can boast

no ofcourse not freshwholemilk

you'll go to hell

Faith without works is dead

James literally says faith w/o works is DEAD

or anywhere but heaven

works is to believe unto the one he sent

youve been trolled from day 1

You should try reading the Bible sometime

That’s faith

You gotta be trolling

This is too dumb

I have so much more respect for men like Martin Luther and the various old school prots than any of these new age hippies who want to do away with all organization, hierarchy, rules, structure