in relation

which was a non sequitor

```Stalin controlled the weather. Deal with it libtards```
- Storm, 2018

you just gave an example for no reason

@Xinyue didn't you know that stalin personally paid the clouds in solid gold to fuck off from ukraine?

<:facepalm:508484035274735665> wtf is this

Stalin is Zeus' earthly incarnation, born solely to punish the Ukrainian Volk

your inability to formulate an argyment

that's a good way to derail a conversation

then make an argument

defend fellow comrade @Xinyue

and stop posting random "examples"

the actually good argument for Soviet brutalities are the 600K-700K people who got shot. Not this obscure "muh interpretation of dis famine is that is genucide"

```that was an unfortunate famine that happened due to a myriad of reasons, including the fact that the kulaks did kill livestock by the hundreds of thousands and spoiled crops, and the crops failed due to reasons such as these, including certain weather factors that some famine experts have said would've caused famine of some kind regardless of who won the civil war```

why were *some* of those "Kulaks" doing that?

there's literally not even any motive for the USSR to kill people by the millions in their second-strongest SSR

literally no purpose in this

collectivization

the kulaks didn't like collective farms

capitalists resenting socialism

despite the vast majority of farmers wanting collectivization

```the actually good argument for Soviet brutalities are the 600K-700K people who got shot. Not this obscure "muh interpretation of dis famine is that is genucide"```


"don't attack the unintentionally murderous policy that i love 😭😭😭"

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

and it was the collectivisation that made Soviets a power in the first place

@AdorableStormtrooper are you going to actually state your argument or keep spouting memes

Storm, the holodomor argument is ***weak***

```despite the vast majority of farmers wanting collectivization```

vast majority of farmers to whom those farms did not belong and were pretty much unproductive? sure 😄

it has no evidence

the 600K-700K people that got shot are quantifiable, we know who they were, their deaths were recorded

kill the productive Farmers as Bourgeoisie and look, we have a massive food shortage in the rural areas

but not the muh billions

they don't exist

Since all the food they grew as a matter of policy was transported to cities, every single bit

also again there's no motive to do this

>kill the productive farmers

wut

but no no, muh fav soviets had nothing to do with it

literally no motive for the USSR to harm their second-strongest SSR

none

no reason

changing the topic again