Message from @Josh42A

Discord ID: 524194184450670595


2018-12-17 11:46:46 UTC  

I'm not disagreeing stop talk past me

2018-12-17 11:47:13 UTC  

Meh why do I even bother

2018-12-17 11:49:28 UTC  

If anyone wants to know the insider information I have on AI currently manipulating over 100 billion dollars of global markets just tag me but I'm not going talk to deaf ears

2018-12-17 11:49:47 UTC  

kek

2018-12-17 11:56:10 UTC  

Well if you don't want to talk about that what is your alternative to capitalism because it's not a form of government it's an economic system so you can't just have nothing as capitalism is the default.

2018-12-17 11:56:48 UTC  

Corporatism

2018-12-17 11:57:02 UTC  

That's worse

2018-12-17 11:57:22 UTC  

That allows the corperations to fully be in control

2018-12-17 11:57:42 UTC  

No not that

2018-12-17 11:57:46 UTC  

Fascist Corporatism

2018-12-17 11:57:52 UTC  

how about socialism

2018-12-17 11:57:55 UTC  

lets try that

2018-12-17 11:57:57 UTC  

Eh

2018-12-17 11:58:06 UTC  

It'd be better than Capitalism

2018-12-17 11:58:29 UTC  

But most socialist's social policies make my stomach turn

2018-12-17 11:58:36 UTC  

yeah same

2018-12-17 11:58:45 UTC  

infested by weak-bellied poofs

2018-12-17 12:00:00 UTC  

Socialism is still capitalist socialism is a form of government not economic system

2018-12-17 12:00:17 UTC  

What

2018-12-17 12:00:19 UTC  

lol

2018-12-17 12:00:32 UTC  

Do you know what capitalism is?

2018-12-17 12:00:33 UTC  

Socialism is independent from Capitalism

2018-12-17 12:00:57 UTC  

Socialism is when the workers are granted the control of the means of production

2018-12-17 12:01:07 UTC  

No that's communism

2018-12-17 12:01:12 UTC  

oof

2018-12-17 12:02:02 UTC  

Indeed

2018-12-17 12:02:21 UTC  

iirc communism is when socialism achieves it's final goal, which involves the abolition of the state

2018-12-17 12:02:32 UTC  

That's it

2018-12-17 12:02:50 UTC  

Under socialism the state owns the MOP

2018-12-17 12:03:09 UTC  

socialism is seen as a transitional state from capitalism to communism

2018-12-17 12:03:20 UTC  

also what Tomato said

2018-12-17 12:03:32 UTC  

Right so I'm not wrong

2018-12-17 12:04:20 UTC  

No, you are

2018-12-17 12:04:34 UTC  

State owned capitalism is still capitalism untill money or capital is abolished it's capitalist

2018-12-17 12:05:16 UTC  

Capital and money are synononyms in many ways

2018-12-17 12:05:17 UTC  

Capitalism doesn't grant the workers control over the means of production, the control is in the hands of the Bourgeoisie

2018-12-17 12:05:23 UTC  

When we speak of socialism we're only talking about Marxist Socialism alone right?

2018-12-17 12:05:35 UTC  

Yes that is the socialism I am referring to

2018-12-17 12:05:58 UTC  

Ooh even worse

2018-12-17 12:06:14 UTC  

So you don't care about being anti-semetic

2018-12-17 12:06:47 UTC  

wait what?