Message from @Spookaswa

Discord ID: 524196648562458635


2018-12-17 12:04:34 UTC  

State owned capitalism is still capitalism untill money or capital is abolished it's capitalist

2018-12-17 12:05:16 UTC  

Capital and money are synononyms in many ways

2018-12-17 12:05:17 UTC  

Capitalism doesn't grant the workers control over the means of production, the control is in the hands of the Bourgeoisie

2018-12-17 12:05:23 UTC  

When we speak of socialism we're only talking about Marxist Socialism alone right?

2018-12-17 12:05:35 UTC  

Yes that is the socialism I am referring to

2018-12-17 12:05:58 UTC  

Ooh even worse

2018-12-17 12:06:14 UTC  

So you don't care about being anti-semetic

2018-12-17 12:06:47 UTC  

wait what?

2018-12-17 12:07:14 UTC  

Marxism is anti-Semitic Marx himself hated the Jews

2018-12-17 12:07:17 UTC  

How is Marxian socialism Anti-Semitic? Engels, Marx, and Lenin all had Jewish blood

2018-12-17 12:07:19 UTC  

the fuck

2018-12-17 12:07:37 UTC  

okay so this isnt shitposting

2018-12-17 12:07:39 UTC  

alright

2018-12-17 12:07:56 UTC  

No I do shit post but I'm not right now

2018-12-17 12:08:20 UTC  

All socialism, Marxist or not is like that. Community ownership I mean

2018-12-17 12:09:06 UTC  

That's not true the government owns the mop under socialism

2018-12-17 12:09:18 UTC  

Marx didn't hate Jewish people, he hated the culture surrounding judaism

2018-12-17 12:09:20 UTC  

How the heck does that make sense? The founding fathers of Marxism were all athiest jews and it's doctrine was widely accepted by many jews in the western world.

2018-12-17 12:10:08 UTC  

Apparently this large Israeli party is Anti-Semitic

2018-12-17 12:10:20 UTC  

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2018-12-17 12:10:41 UTC  

I couldn't get that link less gore-y on my phone

2018-12-17 12:11:09 UTC  

Wait here we go

2018-12-17 12:11:22 UTC  

On the Jewish Question by Marx

2018-12-17 12:14:15 UTC  

Also recognize Marxism Leninism Scientific Atheism was often referred to as 'State Atheism' and the purpose of which was to slowly loosen religiosity and eventually have society move beyond it, including Judaism

2018-12-17 12:15:03 UTC  

Marx specifically is only Jewish if you think it's a genetic thing, which is absurd. He denounced Judaism and became an atheist

2018-12-17 12:15:41 UTC  

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2018-12-17 12:20:32 UTC  

Doing a cursory look about Lenin his "Jewish-ness" is a great grand father on his mother's side he was probably unaware of. He was an atheist however. Huge stretch

2018-12-17 12:23:43 UTC  

But let's also consider non-jewish communist leaders as well:
-Thomas Sankara
-Che Guevara
-Fidel Castro
-Ho Chi Mihn
-Enver Hoxha
-Mao ZeDong
-Joseph Stalin
-Fusako Shigenobu
-Huey P Newton
-Abimael Guzmán

And so on and so forth

2018-12-17 12:23:52 UTC  

Jewish identity isnt exclusive to faith. Many athiests with still self identify to be jewish because of their heritage

2018-12-17 12:24:04 UTC  

Well they identify as secular Jews

2018-12-17 12:24:06 UTC  

I thought Stalin was a Jew.

2018-12-17 12:24:15 UTC  

These people are all Atheist Atheist

2018-12-17 12:24:23 UTC  

No Stalin was Georgian

2018-12-17 12:24:28 UTC  

Oh

2018-12-17 12:25:12 UTC  

Yeah, he was a thug too

2018-12-17 12:25:29 UTC  

But probably one of the better leaders the Gommies have had

2018-12-17 12:25:37 UTC  

I'm generally pro-Stalin

2018-12-17 12:25:53 UTC  

Are you full on Tankie or just Anti-Rev?

2018-12-17 12:26:08 UTC  

Depends on what you mean by the first