Message from @ImATomato

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2018-12-18 12:13:28 UTC  

I know

2018-12-18 12:13:40 UTC  

But it isn't the only incentive

2018-12-18 12:13:53 UTC  

Communism emerges from capitalism, so of course it can't do the things that the previous mode of economic production achieved. Anymore than it makes sense for capitalism to be doing the things feudalism did.

2018-12-18 12:14:24 UTC  

Sometimes cappies dabble in that feudal shit tho 😄

2018-12-18 12:14:31 UTC  

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2018-12-18 12:14:36 UTC  

it's ultimately defining a man based on his needs and wants, you saying that "there's all there is to a man by a large extent" doesn't make it true.
It never answers the question of why people restrict themselves from their own base desires

2018-12-18 12:14:51 UTC  

never was talking only about base desires wtf

2018-12-18 12:14:58 UTC  

wants and needs

2018-12-18 12:14:59 UTC  

desires *in general*

2018-12-18 12:15:02 UTC  

both high and low

2018-12-18 12:15:04 UTC  

pretty much qualifies

2018-12-18 12:15:16 UTC  

Oh yeah epic spirituality there, no desires allowed

2018-12-18 12:15:17 UTC  

kek

2018-12-18 12:15:21 UTC  

Bird shut up you're making an ass of yourself and it isn't funny anymore @Bird Wizard

2018-12-18 12:15:24 UTC  

The nation provides you with a singular ethnos, the group will have more or less internally consistent impulses and direct familial ties.
It provides a singular culture, consistent practices and moores for the people to operate on.
It provides a singular faith, the 1st principle on which to work on and it's connection to the divine, meshes along with culture.

2018-12-18 12:15:45 UTC  

but there were many ethnos before the nation was created

2018-12-18 12:15:49 UTC  

and many cultures

2018-12-18 12:15:51 UTC  

and many faiths

2018-12-18 12:15:57 UTC  

that were destroyed to achieve that singular nation

2018-12-18 12:16:09 UTC  

The ethnos can be combined into one through familial bonds.

2018-12-18 12:16:19 UTC  

cultures can be overthrown and so can faiths

2018-12-18 12:16:26 UTC  

>not allowed
another strawman

2018-12-18 12:16:32 UTC  

or they are discarded on their own.

2018-12-18 12:16:45 UTC  

so do you genuinely care about culture, faith and ethnos?

2018-12-18 12:16:51 UTC  

@Xinyue what would be the incentive to work and progress in a communist society?

2018-12-18 12:16:55 UTC  

yes?

2018-12-18 12:17:05 UTC  

Communist World Culture provides you with a singular ethnos, the group will have more or less internally consistent impulses.
It provides a singular culture, consistent practices and mores for the people to operate on.
it provides a singular ideology and it has connection to the divine creative labour along with the culture that flows from that.

2018-12-18 12:17:06 UTC  

then why do you want their destruction for that one ethnos?

2018-12-18 12:17:11 UTC  

Owning the libs @Spookaswa

2018-12-18 12:17:20 UTC  

lol

2018-12-18 12:17:21 UTC  

@Xinyue you know this wouldn't work out....

2018-12-18 12:17:24 UTC  

ethnos would separate

2018-12-18 12:17:28 UTC  

cultures would arise

2018-12-18 12:17:32 UTC  

and ideologies would change

2018-12-18 12:17:37 UTC  

you can't have a singular culture

2018-12-18 12:17:41 UTC  

let alone a WORLD culture

2018-12-18 12:17:41 UTC  

Ethnic groups, over time, have grown closer together not further apart

2018-12-18 12:17:41 UTC  

Ideology is not faith, it doesnt provide an objective morals nor

2018-12-18 12:17:46 UTC  

the "muh ethos" stuff is a myth lmao

2018-12-18 12:17:49 UTC  

@Xinyue why do you think so?

2018-12-18 12:17:59 UTC  

In your world it wouldnt make snese to divide the workers with ethnic struggle