Message from @Xinyue

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2018-12-19 02:13:23 UTC  

the world needs Khrushchevite parties. if only the masses heard the gospel of Sovnarkhozy, they'd see reason

2018-12-19 02:13:26 UTC  

socialist reason

2018-12-19 02:13:38 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-19 02:13:50 UTC  

seriously though the Sovnarkhozy were the best idea

2018-12-19 02:14:53 UTC  

kill anarchists

2018-12-19 02:14:54 UTC  

plz

2018-12-19 02:15:09 UTC  

anarchists are gay

2018-12-19 02:15:12 UTC  

worst theory

2018-12-19 02:15:15 UTC  

worst praxis

2018-12-19 02:15:16 UTC  

worst people

2018-12-19 02:15:43 UTC  

Would you rather work with an Anarchist to overthrow capitalism or a fascist to overthrow capitalism

2018-12-19 02:15:45 UTC  

?

2018-12-19 02:15:55 UTC  

Isn't the end goal of Marxism a form of anarchism?

2018-12-19 02:16:00 UTC  

Yes

2018-12-19 02:16:03 UTC  

no

2018-12-19 02:16:05 UTC  

Kind of

2018-12-19 02:16:13 UTC  

not really, anarchists wouldn't agree to it

2018-12-19 02:16:42 UTC  

Can I pick any kind of anarchist I want, for that question? If so, then that's not even hard. I would work with a Makhnovist anarchist because they are sane for the most part.

2018-12-19 02:16:48 UTC  

You're either an anarchist or you're not, make up ur mind

2018-12-19 02:16:56 UTC  

no, the end goal is not anarchism

2018-12-19 02:16:59 UTC  

in Marxism

2018-12-19 02:17:01 UTC  

it just isn't

2018-12-19 02:17:15 UTC  

Then what is it?

2018-12-19 02:17:28 UTC  

mahknovs are just statists who are afraid of the negatives of statism

2018-12-19 02:17:40 UTC  

but they can be worked with that is the point

2018-12-19 02:17:50 UTC  

too bad Trotsky crushed them, Lenin was more lenient

2018-12-19 02:18:15 UTC  

trotsky should die

2018-12-19 02:18:18 UTC  

permanently

2018-12-19 02:18:19 UTC  

forever

2018-12-19 02:18:48 UTC  

Trotskyists should be icepicked like their leader

2018-12-19 02:18:50 UTC  

Change my mind

2018-12-19 02:19:13 UTC  

you shouldn't change your mind on that

2018-12-19 02:19:19 UTC  

@ImATomato to answer your question its to reach communism - the society in which the means of labour are held in common and where the administrative apparatus is reduced to that which is necessary for production and distribution to function. In *On Authority,* for example, Engels recognises that authority isn't inherently evil and will exist in some form forever. Many anarchists repudiate authority altogether, so in my view the goal of Marxism is some kind of minarchist communism, whereas anarchists usually have...well, full anarchism as the goal.

2018-12-19 02:19:44 UTC  

Hows this list look like?

2018-12-19 02:20:06 UTC  

@Xinyue dude.... you've been here all day what the actual fuck?

2018-12-19 02:20:16 UTC  

lacks many foundational pieces @Spookaswa tbh

2018-12-19 02:20:27 UTC  

he's just blended into the server

2018-12-19 02:20:29 UTC  

not all day, but I've been an awful lot today

2018-12-19 02:20:30 UTC  

he's become one with it

2018-12-19 02:20:39 UTC  

probably should go out right about now actually, feeling hungry