Message from @Kazimir Malevich

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2018-12-20 09:20:24 UTC  

"The People"

2018-12-20 09:20:26 UTC  

There are times where a leader is universally hated.

2018-12-20 09:20:39 UTC  

I doubt that

2018-12-20 09:20:43 UTC  

Nikolai II got what was coming for him for decades.

2018-12-20 09:20:54 UTC  

the Most Hated leader and Political Insult in our time is Adolf Hitler

2018-12-20 09:20:55 UTC  

Literally nobody was for him.

2018-12-20 09:21:12 UTC  

Nick didn't deserve what he got, but yeah he was pretty incompetent

2018-12-20 09:21:38 UTC  

He was a good person, but an absolutely terrible and incompetent ruler.

2018-12-20 09:21:56 UTC  

And did the Revolution work out? " The People" aren't these agents without any agency..

2018-12-20 09:22:00 UTC  

are they?

2018-12-20 09:22:08 UTC  

What kind of self-fellating broad strokes armchair history discussion is this

2018-12-20 09:22:39 UTC  

you are welcome to set the course straight oh wise one @εïз irma εïз

2018-12-20 09:22:43 UTC  

"Did the Revolution work out" is another question.

2018-12-20 09:22:48 UTC  

no

2018-12-20 09:22:50 UTC  

it isn't

2018-12-20 09:22:51 UTC  

😂

2018-12-20 09:23:17 UTC  

Literally is. It happened *because* the government failed.

2018-12-20 09:23:26 UTC  

Tell me one time when a Revolution has been better than what was before?

2018-12-20 09:23:33 UTC  

USSR.

2018-12-20 09:23:33 UTC  

The fact that he had relatively widespread support except from social democrats and far leftists until the war completely broke apart the military due to its completely outdated and quasi-Napoleonic structure.

2018-12-20 09:23:53 UTC  

The French Revolution.

2018-12-20 09:23:59 UTC  

Which allowed the country to break up, accelerated by Rasputin which was seen as a national disgrace.

2018-12-20 09:24:04 UTC  

But often exaggerated.

2018-12-20 09:24:23 UTC  

If you think the Communist Revolution in Russia and the French Revolution made things better....

2018-12-20 09:24:28 UTC  

then i have nothing more to say.

2018-12-20 09:24:37 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз I would pinpoint Nikolai putting St. Stolypin away from power as the leading reason behind the acceleration.

2018-12-20 09:24:49 UTC  

Agrarian reforms and the longlasting effects of the freeing of serfs with minor steps towards industrialization helped feed civil disorder.

2018-12-20 09:24:53 UTC  
2018-12-20 09:24:57 UTC  

>USSR was better off post revolution
u mean with all the mass starvations?

2018-12-20 09:24:59 UTC  

#StolypinGang

2018-12-20 09:25:01 UTC  

And it was all at the right time for WWI to create a power vacuum.

2018-12-20 09:25:24 UTC  

So yeah this Nicholas II was universally reviled and totally incompetent mess is gay. You're welcome for setting it straight @AdorableStormtrooper

2018-12-20 09:25:49 UTC  

I mean, even the White Army didn't bother rehabilitating him.

2018-12-20 09:25:57 UTC  

French Revolution pretty much set France on the path of Self Abolition.. contemporary France is what the proponents have to show for it.

2018-12-20 09:26:01 UTC  

That tells you something.

2018-12-20 09:26:12 UTC  

The army wasn't being paid.

2018-12-20 09:26:25 UTC  

Nothing to do with his leadership.

2018-12-20 09:26:32 UTC  

@Bird Wizard That of course accounts for the USSR post-turmoil, thaw period.

2018-12-20 09:26:46 UTC  

I have no desire to defend Stalin's USSR.

2018-12-20 09:26:53 UTC  

Russia is just a traditionalist country. The war was already being lost badly from the start, it would have crumbled with or without his later micromanagement.

2018-12-20 09:27:33 UTC  

USSR literally legalized abortion, liberalized divorce laws, integrated women in the labor force and created the Gulag System right away as it came to power.