Message from @Bee

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2018-12-21 07:01:43 UTC  

there's considerable tension

2018-12-21 07:02:13 UTC  

I think that Russia won't appreciate the bossy line from Beijing at all, no

2018-12-21 07:02:33 UTC  

hmmmmmm
mabe so. but, it would basically be somewhat of a racial imperium empire, the chinese over asia, the saudis, syria, iran etc over the middle east, yada yada

2018-12-21 07:02:53 UTC  

also most of the Far-East resents China, hardcore

2018-12-21 07:03:02 UTC  

Vietnam, Korea, Taiwan, Japan, etc.

2018-12-21 07:03:06 UTC  

I don't see this coming to pass

2018-12-21 07:03:28 UTC  

yeah, dunno what japan would do.
thats why trump is tryna align many countries with us as possible

2018-12-21 07:03:40 UTC  

China and Russia are only "allies" due to circumstance, were it not for the United States, they'd probably be on their own or perhaps even have their own rivalry for diplomatic dominance in Asia @Bee

2018-12-21 07:03:54 UTC  

they are actually on very bad terms in some areas

2018-12-21 07:04:09 UTC  

mhm

2018-12-21 07:04:09 UTC  

like Russia legit views China as a military threat and a competitor in military industry

2018-12-21 07:04:27 UTC  

Its fairly obvious that they're competing for dominance in Asia

2018-12-21 07:04:30 UTC  

Though I can't tell who

2018-12-21 07:04:35 UTC  

Who's winning right now*

2018-12-21 07:04:41 UTC  

yeah, it's mostly speculation, for the further future, but in the current circumstances things will come to fruition which will end the petro dollar, and american imperialism etc

2018-12-21 07:04:49 UTC  

Since Mongolia has be re-absorbed into the Russian sphere

2018-12-21 07:05:01 UTC  

I think that Russia has the greater expansion potential, and China is kind of hitting a plateau right now with economic growth

2018-12-21 07:05:14 UTC  

If Russia were to pursue stronger ties with India then China would be pretty fucked in Asia

2018-12-21 07:05:20 UTC  

oh yes

2018-12-21 07:05:24 UTC  

India is btw itself a major factor

2018-12-21 07:05:29 UTC  

yeah i think so too, but they are tryna take over africa rn

2018-12-21 07:05:37 UTC  

which is projected to overtake China not far from now in terms of economic powerhouse-ness

2018-12-21 07:05:41 UTC  

India is pretty much the only major power that Russia can consider a true "ally"

2018-12-21 07:05:46 UTC  

yes

2018-12-21 07:05:52 UTC  

and historic ties exist between them from USSR era

2018-12-21 07:05:55 UTC  

mhm

2018-12-21 07:06:19 UTC  

India is a mess currently though

2018-12-21 07:06:27 UTC  

it has great potential though

2018-12-21 07:06:30 UTC  

Yes it does

2018-12-21 07:06:36 UTC  

Much more potential than China ever had

2018-12-21 07:06:48 UTC  

S U P E R P O W E R
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2 0 2 0

2018-12-21 07:06:54 UTC  

That's a meme

2018-12-21 07:06:58 UTC  

i know lol

2018-12-21 07:07:11 UTC  

India also I think has better relations with the indosphere - Burma, Thailand, Bangladesh, etc. than China has with "sinosphere"

2018-12-21 07:07:19 UTC  

But I wouldn't be surprised if India were to surpass China economically in the next decade

2018-12-21 07:07:21 UTC  

i think so too

2018-12-21 07:07:55 UTC  

India is going to have to take a side eventually though, right now they're trying to keep good relations with the US and Russia

2018-12-21 07:08:04 UTC  

Taiwan fucking hates China, as does Hong Kong, and Singapore tacitly sides with Taiwan in defense matters - the Chinese control over "sinosphere" isn't really there

2018-12-21 07:08:07 UTC  

china is weird, but have an interesting system of governance
they aren't thinking in terms of 5 year plans, but for decades, centuries

2018-12-21 07:08:44 UTC  

Chinese system should go to proper economic planning once more

2018-12-21 07:08:56 UTC  

mhm