Reformist vs Talmudic Jews?
Ashkenazim vs Sephardim

Israeli Communist Party doesn't share "group interest" with Likud

there is diversity within a group

always

yes

ideological sure

doesn't mean i want to be flooded with somalis

there are two poles - the species and the individual. Between these two *irreducible points,* number of aggregations and distributions of belief, behaviour and such emerge.

Nation is not foundational

race is not foundational

but species and individual are

those, then, deserve to be the foundations for social politics

wew the pilpuling of pure ideology is strong in this one

do you have argument? no? didn't think so

yeah i do. i'm thinking

ok

take your time

The difference between a black guy and a white guy is the same as the difference between someone who has green eyes and someone who has brown ?

a nation is made up of biologically similar peoples,
race is biological
to equate a somali and a european is ridiculous, they are completely different
its ridiculous to say that the interests of the somali and the european are the same
both have different needs, different practices of doing things
do you really think that a nation is more strengthened if a foreign element which is against the values etc which resides in the host country?

I share very little in common with a Finnish national socialist, fascist or anarcho-capitalist. I share, however, probably quite a bit in common with a Somali person who seeks communism is this not true? And what different needs does a Somali person have from me? Does he not eat, does he not sleep, does he not need to form a family, gain offspring? Does he lack need for humour, love, friendship? What is the *foundational distinction* between a Somali communist and myself, especially if both converse in English?

Not much.

Values, furthermore, change radically. The values in Kingdom of Prussia in 1800s don't quite coincide with the values in City of Berlin in 2015, or do they? Are "values" too immutable?

@Bee hitler agrees

A nation is made up of culturally similar people more often than biologically similar people.

@Just a weirdo is that a compliment
@Kazimir Malevich it's both bio and cultural

Also Finns are sharply divided along Eastern and Western subgroups, yet we get along perfectly fine

literally are of different genetic stock

yes, because they share brother heritage and culture

in very real sense

or

euros or asians

so perhaps the emergence of world culture, as a result of globalisation, will likewise bring together different "race" groups?

worked for Finns, didn't it?

finns are still european, white

globalism is lack of culture.

^^^^

Differences between Eastern and Western Finns literally exceed those of Eastern and Western Europeans

consumerism, if the capitalists win

@Xinyue they're still brothers

implying that global culture need to be capitalist or consumerist

ha!

silly

Culture triumphs above race. I will have more in common with a russophile Somali than with a self-hating Slav.