Message from @Gerçek

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2019-01-01 15:10:03 UTC  

You know, the usual.

2019-01-01 15:10:42 UTC  

disregard for national laws?

2019-01-01 15:12:31 UTC  

Money laundering in building churches and some of the priests go off scot-free when committing crimes.

2019-01-01 15:13:08 UTC  

One priest was drunk driving, hit a woman crossing the road and got off with just a finger wag.

2019-01-01 15:14:33 UTC  

They are basically like politicians in terms of their corruption.

2019-01-01 15:14:39 UTC  

Do you think there should be *a Church*?

2019-01-01 15:16:03 UTC  

As much removed from politics and government as possible.

2019-01-01 15:16:51 UTC  

That's the only thing Protestants got right and exactly why I respect them more than Cucktholics

2019-01-01 15:17:11 UTC  

I am an Orthodox myself btw.

2019-01-01 15:17:28 UTC  

you want a Reformation?

2019-01-01 15:17:55 UTC  

Na, just a separation of Church and State.

2019-01-01 15:18:21 UTC  

(Unless that's Reformation idk)

2019-01-01 15:18:24 UTC  

You still want the current hierarchy to remain?

2019-01-01 15:18:48 UTC  

Current hierarchy in what way?

2019-01-01 15:19:52 UTC  

like aren't protestant churches much more Independence, a lot of these sects, and each individual church has a lot of leeway in terms of what they teach and there's less control in top down

2019-01-01 15:21:29 UTC  

I would certainly attempt to keep Orthodox Church as it is, with hierarchies and beliefs, just without intervention from worldly forces and get rid of the cockroaches within.

2019-01-01 15:22:56 UTC  

what if the state begins to pass laws and rulings that don't jive with those beliefs and teachings?

2019-01-01 15:24:29 UTC  

Then the disenfranchised people would seek refuge with the Church.

2019-01-01 15:25:53 UTC  

Besides, with Christianity not tainted by corruption, more people would turn to religion, hence the government would have more difficulty passing bad laws unimpeded.

2019-01-01 15:27:08 UTC  

not if the Media and Academia are on the Government's side

2019-01-01 15:28:24 UTC  

even if public opinion is completely opposed to what a government is doing, if they can't organize, it doesn't amount to anything

2019-01-01 15:29:22 UTC  

media can just demonize vast majority of people and organised activists and lawyers with money behind them can neutralize any remaining opposition

2019-01-01 15:33:11 UTC  

I believe that Christianity's message, as opposed to the media's message, is inherently constructive and will prevail even with media opinion against it

2019-01-01 15:33:31 UTC  

The only way it can fail is by using the tactics of its enemies.

2019-01-01 15:33:50 UTC  

I'm saying that even if it does, it won't amount to a political effect

2019-01-01 15:47:14 UTC  

I know, I simply say that the end result of Christianity transcends political trifles.

2019-01-01 15:55:42 UTC  

Would it matter if Russia became like current day India where the state is secular when it comes to Orthodox Christians, but then when it comes other *minority* religions, it's Affirmative Action and Identitarianism all day?

2019-01-01 15:57:13 UTC  

Like even if a whole lot of Russians become actual orthodox Christians, it still leaves open the possibility of an Oppressive Government being in charge and social Engineering

2019-01-01 15:57:28 UTC  

unless, you can Organize..

2019-01-01 15:57:53 UTC  

Organizations ofc are prone to Corruption, always.

2019-01-01 17:28:04 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/529712428703809550/Fascist_core.png

2019-01-01 17:34:58 UTC  

@Deleted User why are they all black?

2019-01-01 17:35:08 UTC  

Because they can be

2019-01-01 17:35:17 UTC  

uh huh

2019-01-01 17:35:18 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/529714247979237417/puresuredure.png

2019-01-01 17:35:19 UTC  

Here, I made them red

2019-01-01 17:35:36 UTC  

I met a black fascist once

2019-01-01 17:35:49 UTC  

He lived in the UK and said the UK should deport non whites haha

2019-01-01 17:36:12 UTC  

i respect the art but dear god does it look larpy

2019-01-01 17:39:26 UTC  

Limited Franchise Republic gang

2019-01-01 17:39:52 UTC  

seej fags go away