So everything is upside-down imo

No not income tax.
Your money have no value,
all your money is a loan,
and you money is losing value every second you dont buy stuff.
If you save anything, you loose money.
You are encouraged to spend your money before it loose value

yeh, but it makes sense why its "upside down" imo

it loses value due to inflation right?

no all humilating jobs are meaningless.
But they don't create these jobs because they are needed.

yeh they do.

@Blake4014

Yes but inflation, your income is a **promise to spend**
You are given some money and you are told to spend this much,
you are **not supposed to try to save it**

I mean, a sewer worker, a bin man, these are needed, but considered humilating by many

people who do save it, do end up having nicer shit.

so Im not seeing it

@Blake4014 Those guys are the heroes

If society was structured correctly

They'd be paid handsomely and people would compete to be sewer workers

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/02/19/bedroom-bill-proposed-family-resilience-law-would-require-lgbt-people-to-report-for-rehabilitation.html

@Blake4014
thats what I said.
Look, you are thinking the wrong way.
Sewer workers are needed, toilet cleaners are needed.
But they don't create the other jobs because they are needed.

That is, if people valued what was really necessary and essential instead of what is vapid and meaningless

compell people to work in sewers? lol

No

If serving society was a socially rewarded virtue

there are not enough work for sewer workers and toilet cleaners

yeh I guess I am, Im not seeing what your seeing,

You'd get people competing to do it

Instead, now, stealing from society is socially rewarded

That's why lawyers, bankers, entertainers, etc, are the most rewarded

And bin men are at the bottom

It's a total inversion

do you have a model from history in which you consider it a good economic framework? any historic period as an example? @virtue

You're asking too much of humanity @Hermitage we're simply too selfish and deceitful.

Its never going to happen that we reward the lowly. more than the lofty ambitious sorts

@Blake4014

In my opinion, the economic system is different from time period to period.

We'll see

@Blake4014

Pallace economy wasn't quite communist.
The economic theories of the 16th century would do today

Good chat gentlmen but I must go -I bid you farewell and we can raincheck this debate later. @Hermitage @virtue

Good day

Good to talk with you @Blake4014

What is his ethnicity ?

watching pritchard again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIuHjY-rseo

@Pine Gang 🌲 Czech?

@Pine Gang 🌲 he looks dinaric, but not typical

northern mix