Message from @nebula moment

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2020-02-26 03:28:31 UTC  

theres no way for the citizens too

2020-02-26 03:28:35 UTC  

no system in place to do so

2020-02-26 03:28:42 UTC  

there was one

2020-02-26 03:28:45 UTC  

it was called democracy

2020-02-26 03:28:46 UTC  

voting

2020-02-26 03:28:48 UTC  

Hoppean gang

2020-02-26 03:28:48 UTC  

representation

2020-02-26 03:28:49 UTC  

the courts are a separate entity with 0 public input

2020-02-26 03:28:51 UTC  

all of that collapsed

2020-02-26 03:28:58 UTC  

as expected

2020-02-26 03:28:58 UTC  

iirc the 8 values thing said I was a Hobbesian

2020-02-26 03:29:03 UTC  

I've never read Hobbes

2020-02-26 03:29:03 UTC  

and if you try to tear it down you are labeled a terrorist who hates cops

2020-02-26 03:29:07 UTC  

idk

2020-02-26 03:29:18 UTC  

the quizes always set me as a neo-con for some reason

2020-02-26 03:29:34 UTC  

because the state has monopoly on aggression

2020-02-26 03:29:42 UTC  

and the cops enforce that monopoly

2020-02-26 03:30:05 UTC  

How would a Hoppean society be better than a totalitarian one

2020-02-26 03:30:15 UTC  

You pay so you decide

2020-02-26 03:30:25 UTC  

The minds of people can be subverted anyways

2020-02-26 03:30:28 UTC  

through generations

2020-02-26 03:30:28 UTC  

The statetards always however are afraid those who can pay more will..

2020-02-26 03:30:29 UTC  

take over

2020-02-26 03:30:45 UTC  

Yes

2020-02-26 03:30:55 UTC  

Especially if you give the control of the mind to the state

2020-02-26 03:31:09 UTC  

through public education and power over the propaganda machine

2020-02-26 03:31:11 UTC  

So Nazi Germany was bad in your mind?

2020-02-26 03:31:13 UTC  

How?

2020-02-26 03:31:46 UTC  

Nazi Germany falls in gray territory

2020-02-26 03:31:51 UTC  

I think the state should decide the genes of the population rather than the population

2020-02-26 03:32:01 UTC  

States have molded genetics for such a long time

2020-02-26 03:32:18 UTC  

The Utilitarian of rightist persuasions would argue that they kept the commies and jews at bay for a bit

2020-02-26 03:32:33 UTC  

And thus, even if their methods might be sketchy they did a good

2020-02-26 03:32:36 UTC  

for what end

2020-02-26 03:32:54 UTC  

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2020-02-26 03:33:09 UTC  

Why do dems do better at GDP growth

2020-02-26 03:33:18 UTC  

Would Bernie be better than Trump?

2020-02-26 03:33:20 UTC  

Simple

2020-02-26 03:33:27 UTC  

Because the effect of policies have a delay

2020-02-26 03:33:45 UTC  

so even if a republican institutes good policy, it will only be felt when the democrat comes in

2020-02-26 03:33:54 UTC  

Fuck GDP