Its why we celebrate soldiers, whose purpose is to kill in defense of the nation.

If a bullet puncturing a heart is good or bad, pulling the trigger is likewise good or bad.

yeah violence has more impact

so when you're misusing the word to use your own meaning, you're stealing the impact of the actual word

and if someone misspells a word, that doesnt mean it's now spelled that way. they're just wrong. when you misuse the word, you're just wrong. not only that, but you're intentionally stealing the impact of the word violence while changing the meaning to suit your needs.

you're intellectually inconsistent on purpose

@Nyaboron I have explained EXACTLY what I meant so if you are still confused that's on you. You are so mad over something that is completely pointless. You are just not equipped to have this conversation.

So your argument is just to tell @Nyaboron that he is “not equipped to have this conversation “

Explaining what you mean isn’t defending the point you made. Just because you have rationalized something in your head doesn’t make you right

Lol @ hours long semantic arguments.

@Unironic Ohio Supremecist lol I wouldn’t have joined in but he called Nyaboron not equipped as like his mic drop

Lol.

is that a personal attack? hmmm

yeah that's his 2nd

he just keeps calling me stupid while he himself doesnt own a dictionary

he doesnt understand that I'm not confused by what he means, but that I'm calling him out on his degenerative misuse of the English language.

@Theo I have defended the point I made multiple times, but for whatever reason @Nyaboron is caught up on one word that I used. Funny how other people were still able to have a good debate but not him?

Because people recognize it for the political and emotional bullshitting that it is

@Nyaboron "you're intentionally stealing the impact of the word violence while changing the meaning to suit your needs.". Yes.

You sound like the Feminists who say looking at them is a sex crime

>Well it's not rape, but it's still a violation of my consent and bodily autonomy, so it's kinda like rape

@Nyaboron "you're intellectually inconsistent". Wrong.

In the same way that feminists try to elevate anything they don't like to rape, you're trying to elevate anything you don't like to the severity of physical harm

which is why people are calling you out

@Catboi Not exactly. In your example the the feminists argument centers on the fact that she feels like its rape; In my example the point centers on the actual intention of the person making the veiled threats.

because nobody likes these games

You can argue all you want.. doesn't make what I'm saying any less true.

I'm not interested in arguing about the details

I'm just explaining clearly to you why people are calling you out

It's about the type of behavior and your intentions not the actual semantics

arguing that is just playing a word game

@Catboi "I'm not interested in arguing" That explains it all.

(((Wittgenstein))) was right!

Getting back to the original point, I don't think you can say propaganda is violence. @Tony_Swann It can lead to violence eventually but it isn't violent.

Well your word games are only appealing to austists who watch Molymeme

Arguing accomplishes nothing since you're going to keep to try insisting your emotional and intentional games around the word violence are just so different than what the Feminists do when they say the male gaze is rape... even though any normal person can see you're using the same tactic...

You're trying to make your position seem more important by likening non-Violence to VIolence

just like Feminists are trying to make their claims seem more severe and important than they really are by making everything rape and assault...

It's the same way that, "TAX IS THEFT", is only a convincing one statement killshot to the hyper-autist agorist spergs.

To put it simply, everyone knows what you're doing.and you trying to argue about definitions doesn't chang the fact... god are you like the right wing Fondby?

@McFansy I agree with you that propaganda isn't "physical" violence but my original point was about the entire political system being violent in nature. Like i was saying to MechMage I think we basically agree, the difference is just about the framing of the issue. I really don't see why these other guys are getting so triggered by that.