Message from @Mercury

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2020-03-07 04:01:07 UTC  

Oh I agree

2020-03-07 04:01:07 UTC  

I suppose in some situations it might be nice.

2020-03-07 04:01:23 UTC  

and dont ever write that monstrosity you just wrote @Tromb2ch2 lol

2020-03-07 04:01:28 UTC  

But if somebody was being all like "x+=++i" just for shits and giggles I'd be annoyed.

2020-03-07 04:01:32 UTC  

But the tests on there are people doing that

2020-03-07 04:01:40 UTC  

its conceptual

2020-03-07 04:01:41 UTC  

is why

2020-03-07 04:01:44 UTC  

That's like 50% of the tests

2020-03-07 04:01:51 UTC  

Because people are assholes

2020-03-07 04:01:54 UTC  

but you cant say they do different things.

2020-03-07 04:01:58 UTC  

I would never write that

2020-03-07 04:02:00 UTC  

they RETURN different things

2020-03-07 04:02:05 UTC  

they do the same thing

2020-03-07 04:02:12 UTC  

Yeah employment tests are trash. I would never give out tests that were theory heavy or tried to trick people.

2020-03-07 04:02:19 UTC  

I'd mostly just present a problem and have them talk through solving it.

2020-03-07 04:02:38 UTC  

that looks like something you'd get on a freshman lvl cs class

2020-03-07 04:02:43 UTC  

sup fuckos

2020-03-07 04:02:52 UTC  

Numbers and shit @Nyaboron

2020-03-07 04:03:37 UTC  

sounds gay

2020-03-07 04:03:42 UTC  

The sad thing is that lots of really top notch experts will fail those kinds of tests because sometimes they ask things like, "What's the second argument to X?" and the experts are probably just looking things up or letting their IDE complete it for them, and simply won't know.

2020-03-07 04:04:00 UTC  

I really hate working with the kind of person who would pass a test like that.

2020-03-07 04:04:02 UTC  

They're generally useless.

2020-03-07 04:04:19 UTC  

If they spend all day memorizing the function names and arguments, they're probably not spending any time figuring out the broad-brush concepts.

2020-03-07 04:05:03 UTC  

memorizing function names? maybe on some obscure libraries, but basic stdlib functions you better know IF you claim to be proficient in a language

2020-03-07 04:05:25 UTC  

Yeah that's true if it's something you're bound to be using every day then checking if you know it is important.

2020-03-07 04:05:44 UTC  

like claiming to know java but not knowing scanners

2020-03-07 04:05:50 UTC  

or hashmaps

2020-03-07 04:06:32 UTC  

I'm a datascientist I just use stack overflow and python what's the problem with that?

2020-03-07 04:06:37 UTC  

LOL

2020-03-07 04:06:41 UTC  

Also why do all the pajeets get jobs and I don't?

2020-03-07 04:06:59 UTC  

Oh and then some of the test are um I'll post it in pictures

2020-03-07 04:07:00 UTC  

ive got a friend whos a data scientist, and hes always bitching that his supervisor doesnt know muhc

2020-03-07 04:07:01 UTC  

Even so, asking that stuff is still bad. If you just sit them down and ask them to work it out or demonstrate, and you see them actually looking that up... but they were able to figure out what to look up, and they were able to solve the problem, and they demonstrate an understanding of the broader concepts, and they were concerned about how readable and clean everything is... then that guy's hired. I don't care if he doesn't know a really basic function name, after seeing that.

2020-03-07 04:07:09 UTC  

he just graduated

2020-03-07 04:07:17 UTC  

The coding interviews have a very specific purpose

2020-03-07 04:07:26 UTC  

but they're really only for new grads

2020-03-07 04:07:57 UTC  

Blame the Pajeets with fake diploma mill degrees and the declining quality of US schools

2020-03-07 04:08:07 UTC  

yea i dont think anyone will fail you if you get the broad strokes

2020-03-07 04:08:24 UTC  

Go look at that picture I put in pictures

2020-03-07 04:08:32 UTC  

If the grads can pass the high end theory stuff then the employer knows they can learn what they put in front of them even if it's not that important or useful

2020-03-07 04:08:53 UTC  

That's literally the only point, to see if they were able to learn what they were supposed to be learning