Message from @BIGMAN
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ye i see
but i'm pretty sure it is?
i think the difference is, you blame the immigrants for that disparity, i blame the businesses
i think there's some validity behind blaming businesses ofc
we've spent the last 50 years gutting all regulations in this country
but there's still a huge deal of responsibility among the immigrants who know exactly what they are doing
but in a place like america, that should mean that the job market just grows with it
and studies do show that immigration is a net benefit to our economy
Here's the thing you don't seem to understand i wouldn't blame you for assuming
there, i linked a study
it even has a thumbnail picture of a brown person working
it gives us cheap tomatoes, big deal
that's my point though
fuck cheap tomatoes
we only need cheap tomatoes because we have a non-existent safety net for our citizenry
what matters to most of us isn't actual GDP growth or the bloating of massive businesses, we only rlly care if the economy is afloat and whether people can provide for their families
it's like how Mcdonald's could pay everyone 15 dollar minimum wage, and it would raise the price of their food like... 2 cents
we have to force them to do shit like that
i'd take a downscaled GDP for a self sufficient economy where someone can provide for a family of 4+ with just 1 working family memeber
also fuck the GDP
and fuck the stock market lol
minimum wage def needs to be raised
that doesnt really represent the People in the way it's portrayed as
Also i read through the study and i don't dispute any of the data but it ties into what i said earlier
most of these jobs can be done by the native populus
doing the things we need to do to actually help our people, including immigrants, would probably lower GDP and stock prices
but, on the flipside, 500K people wouldn't be homeless
native populous truly doesn't want to pick tomatoes tho
and 40-50K people wouldn't die every year from lack of access to health care
it's just there is really shitty infrastructure in allowing them to get to these jobs, i know for a fact it's true in the UK but im gonna assume american education is pretty shit for getting people actual careers too
yeah
it is
but a lot of people blame the immigrants for that
"infecting our economy with low-skilled slave work", in a sense
when really it's our own systems that are failing
and we can also have immigration and improve our standard of living, they go hand in hand
In that sense, i would rather guarantee the native populace had strong career prospects which can fill up these critical fields, i.e nursing or etc instead of them failing school and being unemployed; instead we just ignore that issue and siphon labourers from other countries
they had a cut back on immigrants in one of the southern states before and they couldnt find enough people to pick tomatoes
i think people would rather pick tomatoes than work retail for 8 dollars an hour, if picking tomatoes paid what it's actually worth