Message from @🐧🐧 Pingu 🐧🐧

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2019-03-08 03:29:45 UTC  

I'm sure all the "free" ones are very expensive in the long run.

2019-03-08 03:30:36 UTC  

so if I made one and charge it makes it better??

2019-03-08 03:31:16 UTC  

no, but more ppl are likely to use a free one, plus you get ad revenue?

2019-03-08 03:31:45 UTC  

anyone with a asshole can create a VPN. Doesn't take much to set one up

2019-03-08 03:32:26 UTC  

I also get to see everything you look at online and can sell that info

2019-03-08 03:32:56 UTC  

does it hide your IP. Yes.

2019-03-08 03:33:53 UTC  

But you are basically looking at sites through someone else's connection

2019-03-08 03:34:14 UTC  

So they get to see everything you have been looking at

2019-03-08 03:34:43 UTC  

and VPNs don't have to deal with the same laws ISP have to

2019-03-08 03:35:27 UTC  

right

2019-03-08 03:36:04 UTC  

sniffing packets in and out they pown u

2019-03-08 03:37:07 UTC  

No not sniffing. With VPNs you are piggy backing off their connection. So they get to see everything you are doing

2019-03-08 03:38:04 UTC  

you are using their connection

2019-03-08 03:38:55 UTC  

I am shocked the trust people put into VPNs

2019-03-08 03:40:27 UTC  

So your ISP only sees you connect to the VPN. But the VPN sees everything you are doing and don't have the same laws to protect you or to even not to spy on you. You are putting all that trust into the VPN that can bascally do anything they like with your info cos there isn't any laws saying they can't

2019-03-08 03:49:52 UTC  

They see you put your password in every website that you use

2019-03-08 03:51:00 UTC  

yes. most websites don't matter. like I said, don't use for banks or purchasing.

2019-03-08 03:52:46 UTC  

so you trust your web surfing behavior with someone that doesn't have to have your back

2019-03-08 03:56:01 UTC  

you don't think most VPNs won't give you up in a heartbeat if the local officials ask them what they have been doing on their internet connection

2019-03-08 03:56:47 UTC  

All a VPN is, is piggy backing off their connection.

2019-03-08 03:57:42 UTC  

So instead of the local officials going to you, they will go to them. But The VPN will have all your info and will give it up

2019-03-08 03:59:02 UTC  

this is why a vpn in foreign jurisdictions is preferable. Nothing is perfect.

2019-03-08 03:59:56 UTC  

I like Eastern Europe.

2019-03-08 04:01:22 UTC  

2019-03-08 04:01:28 UTC  

So unless you don't use a western VPN, and you trust none western countries with your internet behavior??

2019-03-08 04:01:50 UTC  

Whats the point of VPNs??

2019-03-08 04:03:14 UTC  

use random proxies or tor. whats both free

2019-03-08 04:03:41 UTC  

dumb cunts use VPNs

2019-03-08 04:06:32 UTC  

If you pay for a VPN they literally have all your info

2019-03-08 04:06:46 UTC  

including your bank info

2019-03-08 04:07:11 UTC  

so your home address

2019-03-08 04:10:04 UTC  

as paranoid people use VPNs they seem really dumb. They don't trust their ISP but trust a rando that set up a VPN

2019-03-08 04:11:24 UTC  

If my isp ratted out bank and CC info, word would get around and their business would tank

2019-03-08 04:11:57 UTC  

vpns can be turned off.

2019-03-08 04:12:16 UTC  

but you trust a small little VPN probably set up by one guy?

2019-03-08 04:13:16 UTC  

no, which is why I turn it off. I use it for mostly privacy but not criminal actions.

2019-03-08 04:13:51 UTC  

use tor its free ands not run by one guy

2019-03-08 04:14:24 UTC  

I worry about TOR more. The Office of Naval Research helped make it.

2019-03-08 04:14:42 UTC  

use both!

2019-03-08 04:15:06 UTC  

you trust governments?

2019-03-08 04:16:32 UTC  

no, but at least ISP have laws in place to protect users