thats all i mean... my next 40 years will be exactly like my last 40 years... it can be any shape anyone tells me.....

Changing the shape of the earth changes the conditions of its surface...

I get what you mean. You're just not accurately summing it up

Yep, I was raised Catholic, but do not agree with much of their history or teaching. Want of Power came into the mix and changed everything.

dig deep in to the holy roman catholic church ...when did it begin, who started it, what was it based on. ..you want answers.. look there.

hansolo, i dont know how else to sum it up. accuratly. it doesnt matter to me the shape of the earth... we could be floating around in god's petry dish, from a failed collage science experiment .. just sitting on a shelf in his closet..

Already have here odd, I've been researching religion trying to find truth... and there is truth in all of the.

Yea I get that

Religion is different than faith. RC is religion man made rules. I have seen different beginnings and links to practices and observances Millenium in the past.

I'm just saying we shouldn't be leading people astray saying what things are if we don't know or care.

That's more of the problem than the solution as far as the truth goes.

@HANS, granted, but we are not leading anyone astray, by having open discussion .

i was raised non religious. i am thankfull it was never forced on me growing up.. i considered myself atheist...until i met other atheists..........who use their new found atheism as a middle finger to their upbringing....thats all it is.. just a big fuck you to Christianity.....at leats 9 out of 10 atheists has had religion shoved down their throats from the beginning.. i dont like atheists who act like dicks to anyone for their beliefs

I agree crystal.

We are simply inviting thoughs

But that's why I'm continuing haha

Because there are answers to a lot of these thoughts...

I don’t think we are going to solve it here, but I am glad to be part of a community where we can all agree to challenge the evil that is going on around us no matter what our viewpoint.

They're not just up in the air

there is no solving the religious debate. i believe. what ever you believe is the right answer for you

Yea I personally see everyone having their own fingerprint of a religion, and that being necessary.

i spend my time learning about every religious practice, belief , way etc... somewhere in the middle maybe there is some truth.

There is. It's in all of it.

Even evil religions are built on the shadows and inversions of good statutes.

Hans, I'm open to discuss things like flat earth for a few reasons, it proves that all is on the table, it allows a path for new insights, it given me an opportunity to learn (even if the lesson is "omg this douche is a twit "😜 )

Except, the flat earth isn't an on the table topic to anyone who studies or teaches physics...

You can literally go out and prove to yourself by using the tools of knowledge, that the earth isn't flat. But nobody can make you drink that water.

Agreed Hans lol

ive researched flat earth for almost 5 years...im still not convinced,, there are some amazing videos ( some are really convincing....but there is a point where all of them fall apart

You can't make them drink the water hans, but remember you only need 3 inches of it to drown them in it 😃

no one can agree on how the sun moon and stars move around.......and the seasons changing.. and why its colder at the polse and hotter at the equator...

Yes. They can

you can dorwn someone in a teaspoon of water...

This is all accounted dor

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im totally open , tell me

Direct your specifics

if you can prove to someone..prove to me. ... no judgement.

Shoot

You ever try to stuff some ones head in a tea spoon? What are you saying odd? 😉

Haha right. I can't prove it to you.