Message from @【IVSTINIANVS】
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and thats what im trying to say
they did get weaker, hence the west fell quite soon after relatively speaking, the east survived, but that does that matter when half of the empire died so quickly compared to the other half
I think we're disagreeing over the wording
and not the actual facts
I'm saying it was a single entity, so it did not get weaker
you're considering them seperate entities
what i'm saying is
i am not actually, im considering the command structure as seperate.... as they were
Yes, but they were both technically
part of the same state
so they should be seen as one
It was still the Roman empire
same state, so what? they still had two independent armies
but with a different administrative heads
one being based in the east, so he can guard and govern the eastern provinces
and one in the west, to do the same
but both of them were heads of the Roman state
and saw themselves as being one entity
when the west was falling the east did not mobilize to help, but rather strengthened its own borders with the muslims
Uh what
give me a second
Islam wasnt a thing till the 7th century
the Western Roman empire fell in the mid 5th
muslims, arabs, again, im using generic terms because im rusty with this shit
so I think your time line is skewed
and
the east actually tried to
im simply refering to the people in the ME
uh no
the eastern empire was fighting the parthians
and the Arabs
had not even gotten
into the middle east
they were in the Arabian peninsula
again, not my fucking point
its generic terms
You said
the east didnt help
they actually did
They sent an army and the emperor's son in law