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7. Since Isaac was 37 at his mother’s death, he was 37 when Rebekah was born.
Since Isaac was 40 when he married Rebekah, Rebekah would be 3 when the marriage took place (because 40-37=3)
20 Some time later Abraham was told, “Milkah is also a mother; she has borne sons to your brother Nahor: 21 Uz the firstborn, Buz his brother, Kemuel (the father of Aram), 22 Kesed, Hazo, Pildash, Jidlaph and Bethuel.” 23 BETHUEL BECAME THE FATHER OF REBEKAH. Milkah bore these eight sons to Abraham’s brother Nahor. 24 His concubine, whose name was Reumah, also had sons: Tebah, Gaham, Tahash and Maakah.” – Genesis 22:20-24 (NIV)
Straight after the birth of Rebecca we find out the death of Sarah, when she was 127 years old:
“The Death of Sarah
23 Sarah lived to be a hundred and twenty-seven years old. 2 She died at Kiriath Arba (that is, Hebron) in the land of Canaan, and Abraham went to mourn for Sarah and to weep over her.” – Genesis 23:1-2 (NIV)
Some facts on what we have read so far:
1. Sarah gave birth to Isaac at the age of 90 (Genesis 17).
2. Sarah died at the age of 127 (Genesis 23:1-3)
3.The incident on Mount Moria (Genesis 22) and the birth of Rebecca happened at the same time, when Isaac was 36 (or 37) years old, same time when Sarah died (Genesis 23:1-3).
4. The verses all looked together tells us that Isaac was 37-years-old when Rebecca was born.
This fact that Isaac was sacrificed in his 30s is well attested by nearly all ancient sources and Rabbis
Rashi’s commentary on Genesis 25:20 says: forty years old: For when Abraham came from Mount Moriah, he was informed that Rebecca had been born. Isaac was then thirty-seven years old, for at that time Sarah died, and from the time that Isaac was born until the “Binding” [of Isaac], when Sarah died, were thirty-seven years, for she was ninety years old when Isaac was born, and one hundred and twenty-seven when she died, as it is stated (above 23:1): “The life of Sarah was [a hundred and twenty-seven years.”] This makes Isaac thirty-seven years old, and at that time, Rebecca was born. HE WAITED FOR HER UNTIL SHE WOULD BE FIT FOR MARITAL RELATIONS-THREE YEARS-AND THEN MARRIED HER.— [From Gen. Rabbah 57:1] [Retrieved it from this website: http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/8220/showrashi/true%5D
Rabbi Tobiah Ben Eliezer (1050 – 1108 AD) also confirms that she was 3-years-old when she was married to Isaac:
“Isaac was thirty-seven-years old at his binding… When Abraham returned from Mount Moriah, at that very moment Sarah died, and Isaac was then thirty-seven; and at that very time Abraham was told of Rebekah’s birth; THUS WE FIND THAT REBECCA WAS THREE YEARS OLD WHEN SHE MARRIED ISAAC.” (Pesikta Zutrata (Lekah Tov), Gen. 24., Midrashic commentary on the Pentateuch, by Rabbi Tobiah Ben Eliezer)
1. Sarah was 90 when Abraham was 100 (Genesis 17:17).
2. Abraham was 100 when Isaac was born (Genesis 21:5).
3. Sarah died at aged 127 (Genesis 23:1-2).
4. Isaac was 40 when he married Rebekah (Genesis 25:20).
5. Sarah was 90 when Isaac was born (conclusion from 1 and 2 above)
6. Isaac was 37 when his mother Sarah died (because 127-90=37)
7. Since Isaac was 37 at his mother’s death, he was 37 when Rebekah was born.
8. Since Isaac was 40 when he married Rebekah, Rebekah would be 3 when the marriage took place (because 40-37=3)
@Deleted User I'm not sure what the verses should really prove regarding her age
The ones you sent
If you actually read the bible it says that she was an adult and fully consented to the marriage
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@Muhammad Al-Tajir The thing is... you are implying that Sarah was 127 years old when Rebekah was born, which is not the case. If we follow your logic, it would mean that Rebekah’s uncles and father were 3 years old too. Sarah was 127 **when Abraham was informed** of their birth, the birth of Rebekah, her father and her uncles, but it doesn’t mean that Sarah was 127 when they were born.
We do not actually know when they were born.
Also, other passages in the Bible indicate that she was defiantly not a 3 year old.
such as?
also hadiths also indicate that aisha was not a little girl like people imagine in their heads
generalizing
just like @Deleted User does
Aisha also consented to the marriage
"16 An exceeding comely maid, and a most beautiful virgin, and not known to man: and she went down to the spring, and filled her pitcher and was coming back.
17 And the servant ran to meet her, and said: Give me a little water to drink of thy pitcher.
18 And she answered: Drink, my lord. And quickly she let down the pitcher upon her arm, and gave him drink.
19 And when he had drunk, she said: I will draw water for thy camels also, till they all drink.
20 And pouring out the pitcher into the troughs, she ran back to the well to draw water: and having drawn she gave to all the camels."
Genesis 24:16-20
3 year old children can barely walk, let alone do these things.
okay so whats wrong with the ones i posted
mathematically it leads to 3
yeah
Sarah was 127 when **Abraham was informed of their birth**
Informed
was he informed very late?
or
20 **After these things, it was told Abraham** that Melcha also had borne children to Nachor his brother.
21 Hus the firstborn, and Buz his brother, and Camuel the father of the Syrians,
22 And Cased, and Azau, and Pheldas, and Jedlaph,
23 And Bathuel, of whom was born Rebecca: These eight did Melcha bear to Nachor Abraham's brother.
24 And his concubine, named Roma, bore Tabee, and Gaham, and Tahas, and Maacha.
Genesis 22:20-24
We don't know when they were born
soo he was informed late
Yes
right?
oh
any scholars
who say
since i posted rabbis who say she was 3
>(((Rabbis)))
The rabbinical commentaries and midrashim contain quite a bit of speculation with minimal support from the Hebrew text, and which are sometimes contradictory, pitting one school's interpretation against another.
okay soo.
what are the things that need to be fulfilled in order to consummate a marriage in christianity
in islam its 3