Message from @Nicholas

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2019-01-09 17:43:56 UTC  

Yes

2019-01-09 17:44:05 UTC  

i mean

2019-01-09 17:44:13 UTC  

if they are for example

2019-01-09 17:44:20 UTC  

in a place lets say siberia

2019-01-09 17:44:27 UTC  

and never got news of a new religion

2019-01-09 17:44:29 UTC  

christianirt

2019-01-09 17:44:38 UTC  

in islam its excused for them

2019-01-09 17:44:43 UTC  

To be saved you have to:

2019-01-09 17:45:14 UTC  

1. Hold the Catholic faith
2. Be Water baptized

2019-01-09 17:46:59 UTC  

Well not believing in the Christian god is a lot different than discriminating against the Christian god

2019-01-09 17:47:40 UTC  

Yes but im saying

2019-01-09 17:47:48 UTC  

If you never recieved the message of jesus

2019-01-09 17:47:52 UTC  

in a far place

2019-01-09 17:49:14 UTC  

Where in any Christian doctrine does it sate this

2019-01-09 17:49:17 UTC  

I am curious

2019-01-09 17:51:25 UTC  

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, “Cantate Domino,” 1441, ex cathedra: “The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches **that all those who are outside the Catholic Church**, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless they are joined to the Church before the end of their lives; that the unity of this ecclesiastical body is of such importance that only those who abide in it do the Church’s sacraments contribute to salvation and do fasts, almsgiving and other works of piety and practices of the Christian militia productive of eternal rewards; and that nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ, unless he has persevered in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.

“**And if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost**, in whom the god of this world [Satan] hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.”
2 Corinthians 4:3:

2019-01-09 17:53:09 UTC  

Pope St. Pius X, Acerbo Nimis (# 2), April 15, 1905:“And so Our Predecessor, Benedict XIV, had just cause to write: ‘**We declare that a great number of those who are condemned to eternal punishment suffer that everlasting calamity because of ignorance of those mysteries of faith** which must be known and believed in order to be numbered among the elect.’”

2019-01-09 17:54:39 UTC  

That is why we should preach the faith as much as possible....

2019-01-09 17:55:04 UTC  

And God is angry when we don't evangelize...

2019-01-09 17:59:21 UTC  

First one was a quote by a pope and I disagree with him

2019-01-09 17:59:58 UTC  

You are in darkness and you need to become a Catholic

2019-01-09 18:00:07 UTC  

Second one is not suggesting that people who are not Catholics will not go to heaven but rather, the devils children is more likely to be one of them

2019-01-09 18:00:39 UTC  

Last one was in relation to ignorance like fedora infidels

2019-01-09 18:02:19 UTC  

It's Catholic dogma that Outside of it the is absolutely no salvation.
You should become a Catholic.

2019-01-09 18:02:47 UTC  

Okay than

2019-01-09 18:03:07 UTC  

Outside of the Orthodox Church is absolutely no salvation

2019-01-09 18:03:13 UTC  

You should become orthodox

2019-01-09 18:04:56 UTC  

Now, this comes down to Orthodoxy vs. Catholic debate.
Bible proves the teachings of the Catholic church.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KV6PXSODgE

2019-01-09 18:05:09 UTC  

I know

2019-01-09 18:05:18 UTC  

It states so in book of Mathew

2019-01-09 18:05:35 UTC  

It’s just history has prevented so for orthodoxy

2019-01-09 18:06:00 UTC  

And I don’t think you knew this but there is currently a schism in the Orthodox Church

2019-01-09 18:07:28 UTC  

Yes, I know about it.
That is why you should become a Catholic.
If you are worried about "muh Traditions" Catholicism also has Byzantine rite.

2019-01-09 18:07:58 UTC  

I am not worried about traditions

2019-01-09 18:08:18 UTC  

We hold Catholics accountable for heresy too

2019-01-09 18:08:25 UTC  

False baptism

2019-01-09 18:08:42 UTC  

And view on sin

2019-01-09 18:11:11 UTC  

How can the Church of God be heretical?
>False baptism
What do you mean by that?
>view on sin
There is Biblical proof for distinction between mortal and venial sin
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/mortal-and-venial-sin

2019-01-09 18:11:25 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/395406157998456834/532622441042804756/infiltration_of_the_catholic_church.jpg

2019-01-09 18:11:46 UTC  

Yes, this is true